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Post by Rocket Witch on May 12, 2017 15:11:06 GMT
The best way to make a space fort is probably by putting it inside of an asteroid, lots of armor there with the only cost being the fuel needed to redirect it. It still might not handle NEFPs well though. btw is that Misaki in your profile picture? Nice taste. Ah yes, of course. I'm familiar with building habs in them, but a lot of asteroids are very weakly held together gravel piles so I'm not sure they'll really do much to stop weapons. Yes, Misaki. In all of ten years I still haven't gotten round to watching/reading NHK though, nor pretty much anything else really. |
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Post by teeth on May 12, 2017 16:18:29 GMT
Ah yes, of course. I'm familiar with building habs in them, but a lot of asteroids are very weakly held together gravel piles so I'm not sure they'll really do much to stop weapons. Yes, Misaki. In all of ten years I still haven't gotten round to watching/reading NHK though, nor pretty much anything else really. What about iron-nickel asteroids? Not sure how well held together those are but it'd be better than a stony one in strength at least. I highly recommend watching it, give the first episode a try when you have spare time and the rest comes by itself. |
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Post by leerooooooy on May 12, 2017 16:34:19 GMT
...but a lot of asteroids are very weakly held together gravel piles so I'm not sure they'll really do much to stop weapons. Let me introduce you to the handy Newton's impact depth approximation formula. Even a "weak" asteroid is going to be essentially impenetrable by any reasonable kinetic weapon |
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Post by Enderminion on May 12, 2017 18:19:41 GMT
...but a lot of asteroids are very weakly held together gravel piles so I'm not sure they'll really do much to stop weapons. Let me introduce you to the handy Newton's impact depth approximation formula. Even a "weak" asteroid is going to be essentially impenetrable by any reasonable kinetic weapon the energy from the impact might shatter the rock |
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Post by Dhan on May 12, 2017 18:25:08 GMT
You should hide an internally mounted gun in it somewhere, and then use lots of Return of the Jedi references in whatever custom scenario you make. "Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station gunship! Heh! It would need some of those methane resistojets to aim the damn thing though. On that note, has anyone explored the concept of a space fort or even replicating the Death Star? I guess it's a bit moot with the fact NEFPs can penetrate 100m of osmium (which may not be accurate but let's roll with it), but something like it or a 'low orbit defence ship' might... do something. I dunno. Assembling ad-hoc bases out of hulks might be handy, like some KSP players whom cobble together used upper stages into a fuel dump. They don't seem very useful in a tactical sense. It would just be more useful to take the firepower and distribute it across several ships than to stack all of it on an immobile structure that is vulnerable to a single well made gun placed a few million meters away. |
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Post by bigbombr on May 12, 2017 18:41:37 GMT
They don't seem very useful in a tactical sense. It would just be more useful to take the firepower and distribute it across several ships than to stack all of it on an immobile structure that is vulnerable to a single well made gun placed a few million meters away. Lasernets FTW. Nothing says distributed firepower like a web of laser emitters, mirror drones and spy sats. |
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Post by Enderminion on May 12, 2017 18:55:35 GMT
nothing says distributed firepower better then cargo ships with nuclear suicide charges
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Post by Dhan on May 12, 2017 19:31:16 GMT
Making a defensive station that doesn't suck may be a fun challenge given the right limitations.
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Post by Enderminion on May 12, 2017 19:42:15 GMT
Making a defensive station that doesn't suck may be a fun challenge given the right limitations. boxes of missiles/drones can interdict the most area |
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Post by Enderminion on May 13, 2017 3:27:12 GMT
My friend who goes by "Karl Marx TM" on steam said that if he played CDE he would have an unstopable ~12 million ton battleship, so I tried to make one, the hardest part was trying to make NTRs big enough that I didn't have to use <10 (for both lag and crew size) two giganewtons and 5.05km/s exhaust velocity with RP-1 propellant and U-235 Dioxide (U-233 Dioxide was not cutting it). for armour, there is more then two meters, for firepower there are missiles and heavy railguns (252km/s) and 7-8 600Mw lasers as well as many 40km/s PD railguns  |
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Post by leerooooooy on May 13, 2017 14:28:27 GMT
the energy from the impact might shatter the rock The average density of rocks is around 2500 kg per cubic meter. So a 10 meter sphere of rock weights a bit more than 10 million kilograms. Good luck shattering that without absurdly YUGE weapons (or physics breaking guns) |
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Post by Enderminion on May 13, 2017 14:51:09 GMT
the energy from the impact might shatter the rock The average density of rocks is around 2500 kg per cubic meter. So a 10 meter sphere of rock weights a bit more than 10 million kilograms. Good luck shattering that without absurdly YUGE weapons (or physics breaking guns) the first 30 seconds of the video is what I'm getting at, the kinetic energy is going to blow layers off a pile of loose rocks |
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Post by The Astronomer on May 18, 2017 15:17:10 GMT
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Post by randommechanicumguy on May 18, 2017 17:59:41 GMT
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Post by David367th on May 18, 2017 20:25:21 GMT
once i knew i could do this i made this what is this and this tho |
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