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Post by doctorsquared on Jan 16, 2019 2:47:14 GMT
Has anyone ever tried using Fluorine Lithium Hydride or other inorganic compounds as propellants for conventional guns? I've tried tinkering with it but haven't been able to get it to work.
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Post by bigbombr on Jan 21, 2019 14:53:52 GMT
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Post by Rocket Witch on Jan 21, 2019 17:34:55 GMT
I thought I did, I even put it in the changelog. Thanks for catch. |
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Post by Fgdfgfthgr on Jan 22, 2019 4:20:28 GMT
Oops, I found it in the changelog but not on the compendium. Will be fix sooon~
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Post by cipherpunks on Jan 23, 2019 19:17:53 GMT
do not use // as comment mark. It's known to cause crashes Finally found the time to look into that issue. Tested with materials, not reactions, though. Couldn't reproduce the actual crash - but I can confirm that relevant (commented) field disappears from material, making any modules that use it hidden from editor. If #, ", ', ;, :, // or /* */ comment is on separate line, the game cries about deserialization problem. Workaround is this approach: Material Lithium Hydride_mod
Elements Li H
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 780
UltimateTensileStrength_MPa 27.58
YoungsModulus_GPa 75.153
ShearModulus_GPa 31.716
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol -77.71
BondDissociationEnergy_kJ__mol 247
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol -68.48
MeltingPoint_K 961.9
BoilingPoint_K 1173
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 4.32
ThermalExpansion__K 4.2e-5
Viscosity_Pa_s 7.8e-4
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 3739.75
Resistivity_Ohm_m 5.7633e+4
RefractiveIndex Lithium
Dissociation
Products Monatomic Lithium_mod Monatomic Hydrogen
ProductCounts 1 1
Material _comment
RefractiveIndex Lithium Hydride_mod: ThermalConductivity_W__m_K is:
RefractiveIndex 0.125 W/(cm·K) for crystals at 50 °C
RefractiveIndex 0.0695 W/(cm·K) for compacts at 50 °C
RefractiveIndex 0.036 W/(cm·K) for crystals at 500 °C
RefractiveIndex 0.0432 W/(cm·K) for compacts at 500 °C
RefractiveIndex I believe we're interested in cold compacts for possible use as NTR fuel, but maybe hot compacts?.. Hot it is then, for now.
RefractiveIndex Added Tensile strength, Young/Shear moduli, source: http://hdl.handle.net/2060/19720066808 => https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19720066808.pdf
RefractiveIndex Also added approximate resistivity, needs re-check and Yield Strength addition.
RefractiveIndex It seems possible to make a proper RefractiveIndex entry from interpolating tripple wavelength table data further on page 43 (Ref. 96(U))
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Post by L5Resident on Apr 25, 2019 3:17:32 GMT
Is there any chance MON-25 and Aerozine-50 could be added?
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Post by ash19256 on May 21, 2019 2:14:37 GMT
So, is Uranium Steel a thing added by this? Because I tried using it in a nuke on a lark, and it crashed the game.
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Post by Fgdfgfthgr on May 21, 2019 6:47:51 GMT
So, is Uranium Steel a thing added by this? Because I tried using it in a nuke on a lark, and it crashed the game. <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 24.200000000000045px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_23828383" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1149px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78225255" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_28263613" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.200000000000045" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 24.2px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1149px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_64030935" scrolling="no"></iframe> This was suppose to be use as armor or other things, but absolutely not nuke. |
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Post by Rocket Witch on Jun 14, 2019 22:38:13 GMT
So, is Uranium Steel a thing added by this? Because I tried using it in a nuke on a lark, and it crashed the game. Uranium steel predates radiological use of the metal. It is stress-resistant steel deriving mechanical strength from the unique formation of uranium carbide structures. It only appears as an option for nuclear cores due to containing a fissile element, but causes a crash due to lacking certain properties. More info: childrenofadeadearth.boards.net/thread/3129Is there any chance MON-25 and Aerozine-50 could be added? A small chance. There is always some realism-grounded interest in including such commonplace mixtures, so someone like space guest (whom gave us various other hypergolics) may show up sometime. I don't really touch mixtures myself since I haven't found specific properties, yet there are often some unusual ones that make such mixtures desirable, like a higher boiling point, which wouldn't be anticipated by guesswork or using the mean of the constituents' properties. |
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Post by Echo on Apr 9, 2020 10:37:36 GMT
Rocket Witch I was checking the modded materials and found that Cobalt Chromium Nickel (an alloy) seems to be already in the base game with different properties, but isn't labeled as stock replacements in your mod. Could you please check? Stock Material Cobalt Chromium Nickel
Elements Be C Cr Co Fe Mn Mo Ni
ElementCount .0010 .0015 .21 .41 .205 .025 .08 .16
Density_kg__m3 8300
YieldStrength_MPa 520
UltimateTensileStrength_MPa 860
YoungsModulus_GPa 189.6
ShearModulus_GPa 72
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 430
MeltingPoint_K 1700
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 12.5
ThermalExpansion__K 7.1e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 9.96e-7
RelativePermeability 1.00085
RefractiveIndex Cobalt
RoughnessCoefficient .9
Modded Material Cobalt Chromium Nickel
Elements Co Cr Ni Mo Mn C Be Fe
ElementCount .4 .2 .15 .07 .02 .0015 .001 .1575
Density_kg__m3 8300
YieldStrength_MPa 2280
UltimateTensileStrength_MPa 2540
YoungsModulus_GPa 194
ShearModulus_GPa 79
PoissonsRatio .226
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 430
MeltingPoint_K 1700
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 12.5
ThermalExpansion__K 15.17e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 9.96e-7
RelativePermeability 1.0004
RefractiveIndex Cobalt
RoughnessCoefficient .4
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Post by Echo on Apr 12, 2020 14:47:45 GMT
ChemicalReaction Lithium Hydrogen
Reactants Liquid Lithium Hydrogen
ReactantCounts 2 1
Products Lithium Hydride
ProductCounts 1
AutoignitionTemperature_K 773
CharacteristicLength_m 1This reaction is not balanced, but I can't find where it was first posted. This reaction should be: ChemicalReaction Lithium Hydrogen
Reactants Liquid Lithium Hydrogen
ReactantCounts 2 1
Products Lithium Hydride
ProductCounts 2
AutoignitionTemperature_K 773
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Post by Echo on Apr 26, 2020 16:40:09 GMT
Boron Trifluoride (fluids.txt) is repeated two times. The first is in Propellants, Boranes: PropellantsBoranesData\Materials\Fluids.txt Material Boron Trifluoride
Elements B F
ElementCount 1 3
Density_kg__m3 2.76
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol -1135.6
BondDissociationEnergy_kJ__mol 1935.09
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol -1119.0
MeltingPoint_K 146.4
BoilingPoint_K 172.8
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 0.019
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 744.03
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.77e-4
RefractiveIndex Boron
Dissociation
Products Monatomic Boron Monatomic Fluorine
ProductCounts 1 3
the second in Propellants, Liquid Lithium: PropellantsLiquid LithiumData\Materials\Fluids.txt Material Boron Trifluoride
Elements B F
ElementCount 1 3
Density_kg__m3 2.76
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol -1135.6
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol -1119.0
MeltingPoint_K 146.4
BoilingPoint_K 172.8
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 0.019
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 744.03
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.77e-4
RefractiveIndex Boron
Dissociation
Products Monatomic Boron Monatomic Fluorine
ProductCounts 1 3
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Post by Echo on May 2, 2020 9:53:44 GMT
Radionuclides / FissilesPlutonium Carbides, Nitrides, Dioxideschildrenofadeadearth.boards.net/post/29753/threadA set of plutonium-based ceramic fuels. Makes plutonium reactors a practical option. Material Pu-239 Dioxide
Elements Pu-239 O
ElementCount 1 2
Density_kg__m3 11440
MeltingPoint_K 2663
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 344
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 2.2
ThermalExpansion__K 6.7e-6
Material Pu-241 Dioxide
Elements Pu-241 O
ElementCount 1 2
Density_kg__m3 11440
MeltingPoint_K 2663
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 344
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 2.2
ThermalExpansion__K 6.7e-6
Material Pu-239 Carbide
Elements Pu-239 C
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 13500
MeltingPoint_K 1923
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 165
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 16
ThermalExpansion__K 28e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 120e-8
Material Pu-241 Carbide
Elements Pu-241 C
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 13500
MeltingPoint_K 1923
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 165
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 16
ThermalExpansion__K 28e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 120e-8
Material Pu-239 Nitride
Elements Pu-239 N
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 14400
MeltingPoint_K 2823
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 239
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 15
ThermalExpansion__K 12.5e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 1000e-8
Material Pu-241 Nitride
Elements Pu-241 N
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 14400
MeltingPoint_K 2823
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 239
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 15
ThermalExpansion__K 12.5e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 1000e-8
Material Pu-240 Carbide
Elements Pu-240 C
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 13500
MeltingPoint_K 1923
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 165
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 16
ThermalExpansion__K 28e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 120e-8
Material Pu-240 Nitride
Elements Pu-240 N
ElementCount 1 1
Density_kg__m3 14400
MeltingPoint_K 2823
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 239
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 15
ThermalExpansion__K 12.5e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 1000e-8
It seems like you are missing Pu-240 Dioxide:
Material Pu-240 Dioxide
Elements Pu-240 O
ElementCount 1 2
Density_kg__m3 11440
MeltingPoint_K 2663
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 344
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 2.2
ThermalExpansion__K 6.7e-6
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Post by Echo on May 22, 2020 15:27:28 GMT
The values of some material properties shared between liquid aluminum (Fluids.txt) and molten aluminum (Crystals.txt) are different, like density. Shouldn't they be identical? Same thing for liquid lead (Coolants.txt) and molten lead (Crystals.txt). Material Liquid Aluminum
Elements Al
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 2375
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol 10.56
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 1180
MeltingPoint_K 933.47
BoilingPoint_K 2743
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 89.3
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.3e-3
RefractiveIndex Aluminum
Material Molten Aluminum
Elements Al
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 2700
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 900
MeltingPoint_K 933.47
BoilingPoint_K 2743
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 237
Viscosity_Pa_s 0.0000029
Material Liquid Lead
Elements Pb
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 10660
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol 4.28
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 147.9
MeltingPoint_K 600.5
BoilingPoint_K 2042
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 15
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.8e-3
Resistivity_Ohm_m 9.79e-7
RefractiveIndex Lead
Material Molten Lead
Elements Pb
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 11340
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 128.7
MeltingPoint_K 600.5
BoilingPoint_K 2042
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 35
Viscosity_Pa_s 0.0000015
Also, the thread linked for Sapphire seems to be wrong, there isn't any mention to Sapphire in that thread. |
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Post by Echo on May 23, 2020 15:35:31 GMT
The cost of monatomic arclamp gases needs to be increased to their biatomic counterpats. Here: Material Gaseous Hydrogen
Elements H
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 70.85
Cost_c__kg 6.04
BulkModulus_GPa .1130
MeltingPoint_K 14.01
BoilingPoint_K 20.28
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 14310
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .1085
Viscosity_Pa_s 8.76e-6
Material Gaseous Nitrogen
Elements N
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 808
Cost_c__kg 0.218
BulkModulus_GPa .08853
MeltingPoint_K 63.15
BoilingPoint_K 77.355
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 25.83e-3
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 2079.24
Viscosity_Pa_s .000018
Material Gaseous Oxygen
Elements O
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 1141
Cost_c__kg 0.244
BulkModulus_GPa .1132
MeltingPoint_K 50.5
BoilingPoint_K 90
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 916
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 6.94
Viscosity_Pa_s 20.18e-6
Material Gaseous Fluorine
Elements F
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 1696
Cost_c__kg 0.309
BulkModulus_GPa .187
MeltingPoint_K 53.48
BoilingPoint_K 85.03
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 1631.72
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .02591
Viscosity_Pa_s 2.1499e-5
Material Gaseous Chlorine
Elements Cl
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 1470
Cost_c__kg 0.528
MeltingPoint_K 171.6
BoilingPoint_K 239.1
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 436.2
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 8.9e-3
Viscosity_Pa_s 3.25e-4
Material Gaseous Sulfur
Elements S
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 1960
Cost_c__kg 0.975
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 709.6
MeltingPoint_K 388.36
BoilingPoint_K 717.8
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .205
Viscosity_Pa_s 3.25e-4
The adiabatic indices and molar masses calculated by the game are different from the biatomic gases. I don't know if they play a role or not in arc lamp gases, but if they do (e.g. the adiabatic index may be involved in the gas envelope expansion stress) I don't know how to change them. |
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