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Post by newageofpower on Mar 14, 2017 1:33:31 GMT
That was so heavy. All of my current missiles are lighter than that and uses NTR. If I had to rank it, it'd be in the class 'large'. I don't get it. Anyhow, my largest missile currently in service (packing the jasonvance 9.64Mt warhead) masses around 15.2 tons. My smallest practical NTR-missile masses 17kg, although I've decommissioned the design for logistics simplification; and the next smallest missile is 52kg. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 14, 2017 1:49:29 GMT
That was so heavy. All of my current missiles are lighter than that and uses NTR. If I had to rank it, it'd be in the class 'large'. I don't get it. Anyhow, my largest missile currently in service (packing the jasonvance 9.64Mt warhead) masses around 15.2 tons. My smallest practical NTR-missile masses 17kg, although I've decommissioned the design for logistics simplification; and the next smallest missile is 52kg. My smallest missile is 18 kg, and still in commission. Smaller is better since I'm packing 1,000 of these into my average warship. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 14, 2017 4:55:44 GMT
With the advent of extruded turrets, is it a waste to out guns right at the front of a ship now?
I continued testing of my super light manned patrol ship and found the frontal guns get stripped off too damn fast.
And the sloped armor that was otherwise extremely good was penetrated through the hole in the front and fail.
Nose gun on capital ship just sucks now.
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Post by AdmiralObvious on Mar 14, 2017 7:01:27 GMT
With the advent of extruded turrets, is it a waste to out guns right at the front of a ship now? I continued testing of my super light manned patrol ship and found the frontal guns get stripped off too damn fast. And the sloped armor that was otherwise extremely good was penetrated through the hole in the front and fail. Nose gun on capital ship just sucks now. I very occasionally still use nose mounted guns, but typically only in the case that it's either a super accurate gun, such as a railgun in excess of 100 km range weapons, or the very occasional "derp" cannon which I've taken a liking to, which either fire a really big payload, such as a giant flak bomb, or sometimes a 2000mm shell. Extruded turrets do compliment very well though. |
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Post by wazzledazzle on Mar 14, 2017 7:47:06 GMT
With the advent of extruded turrets, is it a waste to out guns right at the front of a ship now? I continued testing of my super light manned patrol ship and found the frontal guns get stripped off too damn fast. And the sloped armor that was otherwise extremely good was penetrated through the hole in the front and fail. Nose gun on capital ship just sucks now. Don't have any designs with those right now, but they're still the best way to get multiple guns on target whithout showing your broadside. With multiple extruded turrets around the hull, the body of the ship tends to block the line of fire of most of them. There's also the case of spinal, unturreted guns. Rare on warships but still viable on drones But yeah, nose guns aren't very useful anymore. What we would need is lateral nose guns- here's an example from The Human Reach (great hard-fi book series)  As you can see one of the green lasers is dead center on the nose, but the other laser and the coilgun are offset to the side. You could have a sloped nose AND front-facing guns. (Also yes, that coilgun is huge) |
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 14, 2017 7:56:05 GMT
With the advent of extruded turrets, is it a waste to out guns right at the front of a ship now? I continued testing of my super light manned patrol ship and found the frontal guns get stripped off too damn fast. And the sloped armor that was otherwise extremely good was penetrated through the hole in the front and fail. Nose gun on capital ship just sucks now. Don't have any designs with those right now, but they're still the best way to get multiple guns on target whithout showing your broadside. With multiple extruded turrets around the hull, the body of the ship tends to block the line of fire of most of them. There's also the case of spinal, unturreted guns. Rare on warships but still viable on drones But yeah, nose guns aren't very useful anymore. What we would need is lateral nose guns- here's an example from The Human Reach (great hard-fi book series) As you can see one of the green lasers is dead center on the nose, but the other laser and the coilgun are offset to the side. You could have a sloped nose AND front-facing guns. (Also yes, that coilgun is huge) Paltus-class spacecraft... Wonder how would they even fare in the real war. |
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Post by wazzledazzle on Mar 14, 2017 10:19:53 GMT
Paltus-class spacecraft... Wonder how would they even fare in the real war. Not sure what "real war" you are referring to. In the book it fares, without spoilers, well enough for its design. Great ability to constrain maneuver thanks to the guns shells, but limited by short range lasers. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 14, 2017 10:20:50 GMT
Paltus-class spacecraft... Wonder how would they even fare in the real war. Not sure what "real war" you are referring to. In the book it fares, without spoilers, well enough for its design. Great ability to constrain maneuver thanks to the guns shells, but limited by short range lasers. Oh yes, delta-v is not a primary concern in this setting... Where can I find this book? |
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Post by wazzledazzle on Mar 14, 2017 10:30:51 GMT
Not sure what "real war" you are referring to. In the book it fares, without spoilers, well enough for its design. Great ability to constrain maneuver thanks to the guns shells, but limited by short range lasers. Oh yes, delta-v is not a primary concern in this setting... Where can I find this book? Yep, the ships reach hundreds of km/s of delta-v at 10mg thrust on cruise mode. Here's the author's website, but you can find the books on Amazon. www.thehumanreach.net/books.shtm |
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 14, 2017 15:52:25 GMT
Want to be a laser maniac? Start by this ship!  |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 14, 2017 17:22:52 GMT
tilt your lasers on slightly different angles, so they can all shoot forwards
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Post by David367th on Mar 14, 2017 20:17:26 GMT
tilt your lasers on slightly different angles, so they can all shoot forwards All weapons can shoot through each other, this was pointed out a while ago. You can effectively have a massive thick rad shield in front of your ship and have all your weapons shoot through it. |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 14, 2017 20:43:27 GMT
all my guns have clear LOS forwards for when its patched
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Post by David367th on Mar 15, 2017 0:06:19 GMT
all my guns have clear LOS forwards for when its patched I just have a bunch of broken things and throw them out when it's patched. Kind of like spring cleaning, but I still haven't finished coilguns. |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 15, 2017 2:57:51 GMT
its not that hard to arrange guns to superfire and or be on a different section of the ship so they can shoot.
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