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Post by xenophon13 on Mar 9, 2017 15:11:13 GMT
Enderminion Yeah, I am planning on revisiting large missiles again. Micromissiles are great in principle, but if the game won't run, it's kind of pointless. Durandal Thanks! Yeah, you bring up a good point. I do like to keep my ship roles fairly separated, just because it makes keeping track of designs easier (and means fewer module dependencies if I want to edit/delete a module). That said, I have a nice 15MW laser to add to my gunships, and might put some gun drones on my laserstar. I like keeping my missile ships lightweight and only armed with missiles, however. Their tactics are basically spam missiles and run, and if they are engaged directly they've already failed. And as far as I can tell, LCP fiber is just a cheaper, less-effective version of Aramid fiber. I'm mainly using it as an anti-spall liner, except on the Macbeth where it's basically decorative. concretedonkey Thank you! Yeah, I tried reinforced carbon-carbon on a whim, but I'm pleased with the results. As requested, here are the Liberty Gun and the PDC The Liberty Gun was designed for the Liberty Assault Cutter challenge, and weirdly enough it is my only coilgun design not to be completely broken by the patch. It's rate of fire is horrible, but I'm pretty pleased with its accuracy and exit velocity. The PDC is less useful as a CIWS gun than a fast-firing railgun would be, but it's light, dirt cheap, and reminds me of the PDCs on the Expanse. I tend to add these to use up leftover crew slots. Isnt there a 41km/s+ gun that was 150t ? Yep, that was in my original post, but here it is again: |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 9, 2017 15:12:59 GMT
Can I see the specs on that railgun xenophon13 if possible. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 9, 2017 15:28:27 GMT
Let me ask again, are graphene railgun needles with radius of 2-10 mm with listed properties (overly strong) possible?
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Post by gedzilla on Mar 9, 2017 15:32:51 GMT
Isnt there a 41km/s+ gun that was 150t ? Yep, that was in my original post, but here it is again: post the picture with the specs ? |
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Post by ross128 on Mar 9, 2017 16:02:28 GMT
I have a set of reqirements for missiles that generally preclude use of micro-missiles, they are 4+km of Dv and 30 second plus burn time with 10g+ of acceleration. I balanced out mass flow rate to get a 30 second plus burn time and stripped armour to get 10Gs, I had to add more propellant in the end but thats ok.  Introducing the Nuclear Explosively Formed Penetrator, Fluorine-Hydrogen, Anti-Laser, Short Burn 412mm missile. Or the NEFPFHALSB 412mm for short. A variant of my previous anti-laser missile, which has been tuned to favor acceleration over burn time.  As mid-course acceleration can exceed 20gs, be advised that mid-course engine cutoff may fail. Gun-launching or staging is recommended to replace the boost phase. Also, thinking about it a bit, our micro-missiles actually aren't all that micro. A TOW missile has a diameter of 152mm, much smaller than my typical "micro" missile. Though I guess it is still small for something with nearly 7 km/s of dV, considering a TOW tops out around 320 m/s and isn't a nuke. It certainly qualifies in terms of weight though, a comparably sized Harpoon anti-ship missile with a 340mm diameter and 3.8m length (my missile has a length of 3.27m, not shown due to screen space) weighs 691kg, and 221kg of that is the warhead. |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 9, 2017 16:25:35 GMT
those missiles you mentioned have to plow through atmosphere
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Post by ross128 on Mar 9, 2017 16:48:30 GMT
Well, the main point was that our micro-missiles aren't so micro compared to a lot of RL missiles. Though they are light, likely due to being made out of mostly rubber and plastic. I suppose "ultralight" might be a better description than "micro", since their main advantage seems to be more in weight than size.
Though I suppose if I was willing to sacrifice a bit of performance, I could theoretically go even smaller...
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Post by Durandal on Mar 9, 2017 17:23:25 GMT
I have a set of reqirements for missiles that generally preclude use of micro-missiles, they are 4+km of Dv and 30 second plus burn time with 10g+ of acceleration. I balanced out mass flow rate to get a 30 second plus burn time and stripped armour to get 10Gs, I had to add more propellant in the end but thats ok. Introducing the Nuclear Explosively Formed Penetrator, Fluorine-Hydrogen, Anti-Laser, Short Burn 412mm missile. Or the NEFPFHALSB 412mm for short. A variant of my previous anti-laser missile, which has been tuned to favor acceleration over burn time. As mid-course acceleration can exceed 20gs, be advised that mid-course engine cutoff may fail. Gun-launching or staging is recommended to replace the boost phase. Also, thinking about it a bit, our micro-missiles actually aren't all that micro. A TOW missile has a diameter of 152mm, much smaller than my typical "micro" missile. Though I guess it is still small for something with nearly 7 km/s of dV, considering a TOW tops out around 320 m/s and isn't a nuke. It certainly qualifies in terms of weight though, a comparably sized Harpoon anti-ship missile with a 340mm diameter and 3.8m length (my missile has a length of 3.27m, not shown due to screen space) weighs 691kg, and 221kg of that is the warhead. Very nice looking! I need to equip my own micromissiles with nitrile rubber to see how the do. Whats your guidance setup if you don't mind me asking? I don't remember mine off the top of my head, but I tend to use micromissiles as a saturation cloud of 20+ units. |
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Post by xenophon13 on Mar 9, 2017 18:48:01 GMT
Yep, that was in my original post, but here it is again: post the picture with the specs ? Can I see the specs on that railgun xenophon13 if possible. Right, my bad. Here you go! RailgunModule RCC Light Rail Cannon
UsesCustomName true
PowerConsumption_W 2e+008
Capacitor
Count 1
DielectricComposition Hafnia
Dimensions_m 0.46 0.8
Separation_m 3e-005
Rails
Composition Reinforced Carbon-Carbon
Thickness_m 0.21
Length_m 10
BarrelArmorThickness_m 0.884
Armature
Composition Amorphous Carbon
BoreRadius_m 0.0045
Mass_kg 0.001
Tracer Iridium
Payload null
Loader
PowerConsumption_W 2.3e+007
Turret
InnerRadius_m 4.8
Extruded true
ArmorComposition Amorphous Carbon
ArmorThickness_m 0.03
MomentumWheels
Composition Lithium
RotationalSpeed_RPM 160
AttachedAmmoBay
Capacity 100000
Stacks 1
TargetsShips true
TargetsShots true Also, RiftandRend , what kind of engine are you using on your Lance? 75.5 km/s with a full quarter gee of acelleration is really impressive. |
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Post by RiftandRend on Mar 9, 2017 19:38:37 GMT
Also, RiftandRend , what kind of engine are you using on your Lance? 75.5 km/s with a full quarter gee of acelleration is really impressive. Those stats are a lie, its 3 methane NTRs and 1 large methane MPDT. It only gets 7.5 km/s with just the NTRs. |
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Post by Rocket Witch on Mar 10, 2017 2:53:54 GMT
Some improvement to my orb gun, 3 more km/s. And a new one for my interceptor drones, finally supplanting the conventional gun without being larger or heavier. The 1 stage coilgun meta is real. Also made my first gigawatt laser ship. It's actually quite underwhelming imo, but it does look cool. Assuming the lasing damage threshold stat is meant to be relevant to laser optics damage post-fix, the intensity is specced for taking out aluminium mirrors at 1Mm, which is really gamey but I thought it would be funny in a PvP setting. The components allow it to withstand just over 30GW/m 2 in return. |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 10, 2017 3:36:04 GMT
only 3Gw? I have 5Gw and 10Gw lasers
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 10, 2017 16:16:49 GMT
So, I was trying to figure out how to make a small scale capital ship. Then I just gave up and put some crews into my well designed sub-capital drone because that takes way less effort.  It has guns, it has missiles, it has drones. IT HAS EVERYTHING YOU NEED!!! Except laser, but some other ship can carry that. And tried to improve my sub-capital drone as well.  I just really like the diamond coating, it also good for when some projectiles just came striking the hull or when laser tried to slice it up. Really really like the new extruded turret because it makes this shot possible. |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 10, 2017 16:21:04 GMT
also diamond looks cool
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 10, 2017 16:49:57 GMT
So, I was trying to figure out how to make a small scale capital ship. Then I just gave up and put some crews into my well designed sub-capital ship because that takes way less effort. It has guns, it has missiles, it has drones. IT HAS EVERYTHING YOU NEED!!! Except laser, but some other ship can carry that. And tried to improve my sub-capital drone as well. I just really like the diamond coating, it also good for when some projectiles just came striking the hull or when laser tried to slice it up. Really really like the new extruded turret because it makes this shot possible. That brave frontier I've never be able to break into. |
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