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Post by concretedonkey on Mar 3, 2017 13:53:21 GMT
I decided to test the "counter battery laser" theory, to that end I modded one of my 300Mw lasers, I gave it a smaller mirror and boron reaction wheels, I also dropped the turret armour from 57mm of Amourphus Carbon to 20mm of A-carbon ... During battle testing, the ship without CB lasers lost 7/40 (17.5%) laser turrets, all of the lost turrets were of the smaller type for that ship (1.2Gw) that test was aganist a laser skiff During Battle testing, the ship with CB lasers lost 6/44 turrets (13.636%), of these 4 were CB turrets and 2 were 1.2Gw turrets, there were 4 CB turrets total on the ship, that test was aganist a Laser Frigate I think we have to go more extreme, I'm currently testing 1MW 5cm counter laser and its burning just fine... I don't think we need high energy for it to work. Turret radius is 11cm. Otherwise the concept works like a charm! |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 3, 2017 14:00:52 GMT
So, with the new extruded turrets, I tried a new spin on an old concept. Shove enough guns onto something to make it work. The result is this.  Light Soldier Class Gunfighter I, which weighs nearly as much as a stock Stinger drone but still smaller than it to make it harder for enemy ship to hit it. The drone has 4 1 gram railguns that can engage capital ships at range 70 kilometers, 4 50 gram flak cannon that can rip the target at close range, and 4 1 kilogram howitzers for total annihilation of the target. And it looks freaking impressive.   Unfortunately, I quickly found a problem about it. Most of its firepower will be taken out by a long range EM cannon, such as the sniper cannon, easily. Though sniper coilgun is kinda a special case with its insane accuracy. Anyway, it was kinda a stupid fun build that I made for silly reason. Maybe I can make something else out of this. |
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 3, 2017 14:18:14 GMT
My flak missile  (A ton of thanks to deltav , who came up with the idea of TINY flak bomb) The gunship suffer from 100 of them~ Attachments:Flak Missile MK1.txt (2.43 KB)
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Post by concretedonkey on Mar 3, 2017 14:27:50 GMT
  Ok this is my shot at the counter laser .. The turret is nothing interesting, but its cheap and gets the job done.Results in very pretty fights btw. Just keep in mind that against designs like the stock laser frigate , where you have one laser driving multiple turrets its more effective NOT to target all lasers at the same time. The beams are wide enough at a distance so they cover most of the ship, and the working lenses along with it. |
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 3, 2017 14:33:43 GMT
Ok this is my shot at tHe counter laser .. The turret is nothing interesting, but its cheap and gets the job done.Results in very pretty fights btw. Just keep in mind that against designs like the stock laser frigate , where you have one laser driving multiple turrets its more effective NOT to target all lasers at the same time. The beams are wide enough at a distance so they cover most of the ship, and the working lenses along with it. Well it proved that large laser will be out phased soon.. |
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Post by concretedonkey on Mar 3, 2017 14:44:15 GMT
Ok this is my shot at tHe counter laser .. The turret is nothing interesting, but its cheap and gets the job done.Results in very pretty fights btw. Just keep in mind that against designs like the stock laser frigate , where you have one laser driving multiple turrets its more effective NOT to target all lasers at the same time. The beams are wide enough at a distance so they cover most of the ship, and the working lenses along with it. Well it proved that large laser will be out phased soon.. I don't think so, those things are not effective against anything else. You still need larger lasers to keep drones and missiles at bay. But at the same time its probably wise to open them only when you feel safe. Something like a game of cards where you keep your strongest hand hidden and wait for the enemy open its lenses. And at the same time pound them with missiles and railguns. |
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 3, 2017 14:49:31 GMT
Well it proved that large laser will be out phased soon.. I don't think so, those things are not effective against anything else. You still need larger lasers to keep drones and missiles at bay. But at the same time its probably wise to open them only when you feel safe. Something like a game of cards where you keep your strongest hand hidden and wait for the enemy open its lenses. And at the same time pound them with missiles and railguns. My own modified micro carrier with mass of <500 ton carry 10000 anti laser drone. And a single drone can destroy 20 doom laser by it own before the doom laser hit the drone. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 3, 2017 14:50:50 GMT
Instead of going for micro counter laser drone, I just make a drone with a shit loads of laser.  It's a weird looking bulbous mess that somehow works well.  It looks weird shooting at its back when the capital ship with destroyed laser and turrets flew pass by it.  And surprisingly durable since it's mostly empty space and even the main laser unit is thin and small. |
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 3, 2017 14:52:32 GMT
Instead of going for micro counter laser drone, I just make a drone with a shit loads of laser. It's a weird looking bulbous mess that somehow works well. It looks weird shooting at its back when the capital ship with destroyed laser and turrets flew pass by it. And surprisingly durable since it's mostly empty space and even the main laser unit is thin and small. Why you like big thing that much? I love small gadget instead. It is cheap , effective and DELICATE~ |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 3, 2017 14:53:03 GMT
yes but I have lighter lasers to hit your laser and I keep my doom lasers locked up until your lasers are diabled
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 3, 2017 14:55:17 GMT
yes but I have lighter lasers to hit your laser and I keep my doom lasers locked up until your lasers are diabled Yea it may be a good countermeasure for small laser~ |
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 3, 2017 15:03:55 GMT
If I have more small lasers then you have drones then I can take out your lasers and still have lasers left allowing me to open up my doom and super doom lasers and finish off your drones and missiles (and caps I guess)
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 3, 2017 15:07:01 GMT
If I have more small lasers then you have drones then I can take out your lasers and still have lasers left allowing me to open up my doom and super doom lasers and finish off your drones and missiles (and caps I guess) Then a war on quantity may occur , and the side that bring more laser to the field win... |
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Post by apophys on Mar 3, 2017 15:13:08 GMT
 Behold that beastly range. I can increase it dramatically at the expense of velocity, but imho if the velocity is too low then dodge probability at such immense ranges renders the extra range meaningless. This is beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. If only we had composite barrels to make it lighter... |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 3, 2017 15:20:41 GMT
Instead of going for micro counter laser drone, I just make a drone with a shit loads of laser. It's a weird looking bulbous mess that somehow works well. It looks weird shooting at its back when the capital ship with destroyed laser and turrets flew pass by it. And surprisingly durable since it's mostly empty space and even the main laser unit is thin and small. Why you like big thing that much? I love small gadget instead. It is cheap , effective and DELICATE~ I like to make big stuff because I have achieved pinnacle of perfection and overengineering so many goddamn time, I just want to fuck around with the game with interesting build instead of going full meta all the freaking time. Now I'm still trying to figure out how to build light viable coilgun, so hope to solve that problem soon. Besides, can you say that you make a drone that looks like a dinosaur with a jetpack?  |
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