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Post by theholyinquisition on Jan 13, 2017 1:51:53 GMT
Anyone else think that we should set up a design request thread?
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Post by David367th on Jan 13, 2017 2:14:27 GMT
Cost is not a problem in all of my ships. They all use cheap stuffs, so I'd prefer silica gel. If you're not worried about cost, you would go with Aramid fiber, as its more expensive and on average better than Silica. If you were, you would go with nitrile rubber as its cheaper, yet slightly less effective on average. To summarize:
Aramid Fiber 7.295cm - Average Time to Black: 95.192s
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 0.0766 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.000265 cm/(s*Mc) or 0.0585 cm/(s*kt)
Nitrile Rubber 9.21cm
- Average Time to Black: 51.342
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 0.178 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.00394 cm/(s*Mc) or 0.136 cm/(s*kt)
Silica Aerogel 100cm
- Average Time to Black: 54.148
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 1.85 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.0163 cm/(s*Mc) or 2.42 cm/(s*kt)
Effectiveness was supposed to be ablation per megacredit and ablation per kilotonne so I'm roughly 95.192% sure lower is better, but if anyone wants to double check that would be fantastic. It makes it look like Aramid is both cost and mass effective which doesn't sound right... |
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Post by The Astronomer on Jan 13, 2017 3:30:51 GMT
Cost is not a problem in all of my ships. They all use cheap stuffs, so I'd prefer silica gel. If you're not worried about cost, you would go with Aramid fiber, as its more expensive and on average better than Silica. If you were, you would go with nitrile rubber as its cheaper, yet slightly less effective on average. To summarize:
Aramid Fiber 7.295cm - Average Time to Black: 95.192s
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 0.0766 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.000265 cm/(s*Mc) or 0.0585 cm/(s*kt)
Nitrile Rubber 9.21cm
- Average Time to Black: 51.342
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 0.178 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.00394 cm/(s*Mc) or 0.136 cm/(s*kt)
Aramid Fiber 100cm
- Average Time to Black: 54.148
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 1.85 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.0163 cm/(s*Mc) or 2.42 cm/(s*kt)
Effectiveness was supposed to be ablation per megacredit and ablation per kilotonne so I'm roughly 95.192% sure lower is better, but if anyone wants to double check that would be fantastic. It makes it look like Aramid is both cost and mass effective which doesn't sound right... should be silica aerogel? |
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Post by David367th on Jan 13, 2017 3:35:24 GMT
If you're not worried about cost, you would go with Aramid fiber, as its more expensive and on average better than Silica. If you were, you would go with nitrile rubber as its cheaper, yet slightly less effective on average. To summarize:
Aramid Fiber 7.295cm - Average Time to Black: 95.192s
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 0.0766 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.000265 cm/(s*Mc) or 0.0585 cm/(s*kt)
Nitrile Rubber 9.21cm
- Average Time to Black: 51.342
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 0.178 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.00394 cm/(s*Mc) or 0.136 cm/(s*kt)
Aramid Fiber 100cm
- Average Time to Black: 54.148
- Avg Ablation Rate, lower is better: 1.85 cm/s
- Effectiveness: 0.0163 cm/(s*Mc) or 2.42 cm/(s*kt)
Effectiveness was supposed to be ablation per megacredit and ablation per kilotonne so I'm roughly 95.192% sure lower is better, but if anyone wants to double check that would be fantastic. It makes it look like Aramid is both cost and mass effective which doesn't sound right... should be silica aerogel? Yes, yes, sorry! Was copy pasting to try and make formatting, easier didn't work out. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Jan 13, 2017 4:53:03 GMT
Anyone else think that we should set up a design request thread? Let Tukuro handle about creation of that sort of thread. I'm sure they will do good stuffs. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Jan 13, 2017 6:14:05 GMT
You can clearly tell how much I gave a fuck about practicality with my following design. But anyway, I'm basically got bored and my recent interest in big conventional gun has led to the design of both of these drones. I made them to handle the big guns. First, I make this drone for one recent, to fire a 10 kilogram payload out of a cannon.  It's basically a tank cannon strapped to a rocket. Firing a multi-flak shell, it ripped ships like tin can.  What you didn't see here is that the other side is glowing as brightly as this side, everything inside has ripped to shred. The drone does weigh like 6.2 tons at its latest version, but I still proved that it's perfectly possible to make a tank cannon and strap a drone to it. Next, my previous Cherry Bomb cannon that fire flak shell at 50 gram only was not as strong as I wanted, firing 10 of them every second. So I made a version of the cannon that fire flak shell at 50 rounds per second, and yes, it's basically a GAU-8 Avenger gatling cannon, in space.  The shell is stil weak, but when there's 50 of them hitting the target per second... Everything get ripped to shred. Unfortunately, it caused quite a lag when there's 5 of these drones on field.  But hey, they are some really fun option! Attachments:
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Post by Rocket Witch on Jan 13, 2017 8:11:00 GMT
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Post by David367th on Jan 13, 2017 12:57:29 GMT
Will do, I should have data by the end of the day. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Jan 13, 2017 12:59:30 GMT
Thank to my holiday, I basically have all the time today to screw with things. After I duplicated my tank cannon above and make it fire 5 kg round instead, I test-fired it with my micro missiles and found that I have micro drones that weighs under 5 kg...  I felt like I did something extremely horrible. The fact that the drone has practical mass make it even more horrible. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Jan 13, 2017 14:18:14 GMT
Hey, I came up with a question: which of your (personified, like in Kantai) ship would you choose to be your waifu partner?
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Post by lawson on Jan 13, 2017 15:53:45 GMT
This drone is a nasty little number from my recent Drain (pipe) series of bargain drones and missiles.  Sporting a 20Km/s sabotted coil gun, over half of the drone is gun and ammo storage. The combination of range and slim profile make this drone a real bear to deal with. (the LAG is a bear as well...) As an added bonus, the PTFE armor makes the core hull exceptionally nuke resistant so its also good at wasting enemy point defenses. |
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Post by lieste on Jan 13, 2017 16:55:25 GMT
You can clearly tell how much I gave a fuck about practicality with my following design. But anyway, I'm basically got bored and my recent interest in big conventional gun has led to the design of both of these drones. I made them to handle the big guns. First, I make this drone for one recent, to fire a 10 kilogram payload out of a cannon. It's basically a tank cannon strapped to a rocket. Firing a multi-flak shell, it ripped ships like tin can. What you didn't see here is that the other side is glowing as brightly as this side, everything inside has ripped to shred. The drone does weigh like 6.2 tons at its latest version, but I still proved that it's perfectly possible to make a tank cannon and strap a drone to it. Next, my previous Cherry Bomb cannon that fire flak shell at 50 gram only was not as strong as I wanted, firing 10 of them every second. So I made a version of the cannon that fire flak shell at 50 rounds per second, and yes, it's basically a GAU-8 Avenger gatling cannon, in space. The shell is stil weak, but when there's 50 of them hitting the target per second... Everything get ripped to shred. Unfortunately, it caused quite a lag when there's 5 of these drones on field. But hey, they are some really fun option! I have some concerns about firing 10kg shells from a 7 ton vessel... even 19ton vehicles struggle with firing 120mm class guns, at around 1.5km/s with light shot and 1km/s with heavier shell. |
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Post by theholyinquisition on Jan 13, 2017 19:49:18 GMT
Hey, I came up with a question: which of your (personified, like in Kantai) ship would you choose to be your waifu partner?  . . . One of the tankers. |
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Post by thorneel on Jan 13, 2017 20:51:29 GMT
After some refinements, here is a version of the 1 MW UV drone based on David367th laser whose radiators don't sit right in the resistojet's exhaust:  With its Extended Range version:  It is lightly armoured: the main body has 1.1 mm of Nitrile Rubber, while the laser itself has 5 mm. The radiators have 1mm thickness and 1mm diamond armour. If you go against laserstars, it may be interesting to put some more NR armour on the laser. Here is the design of the ER version with all its modules. For the base version, just remove the two drop tanks. ThermoelectricFissionReactorModule 2.50 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor
UsesCustomName false
ReactorCoreDimensions_m 0.023 0.048
NuclearReactor
Coolant Sodium
Moderator Boron Nitride
ModeratorMass_kg 0.025
Fuel U-233 Dioxide
FuelMass_kg 0.1
FuelEnrichment_Percent 0.55
ControlRodComposition Boron Nitride
ControlRodMass_kg 0.046
NeutronReflector Diamond
ReflectorThickness_m 0
AverageNeutronFlux__m2_s 8.2e+019
InnerTurbopump
Composition Boron Nitride
PumpRadius_m 0.16
RotationalSpeed_RPM 170
ThermocoupleInnerDimensions_m 0.18 0.32
Thermocouple
PTypeComposition Osmium
NTypeComposition Tungsten
Length_m 0.001
ThermocoupleExitTemperature_K 2400
OuterCoolant Sodium
OuterTurbopump
Composition Lithium
PumpRadius_m 0.12
RotationalSpeed_RPM 240
LaserModule 1.000 MW Titanium:Sapphire Near Ultraviolet Laser - David367th
UsesCustomName true
ArcLamp
GasComposition Xenon
EnvelopeComposition Fused Quartz
PowerSupplied_W 1e+006
Radius_m 0.01
CavityWallComposition Silver
CavityCoolantComposition Hydrogen
CavitySemimajorAxis_m 0.14
CavitySemiminorAxis_m 0.13
GainMedium Titanium:Sapphire
OpticalNodes 1700000
LasingRodRadius_m 0.022
Mirror
Composition Silver
OutputCoupler
Composition Fused Quartz
CoolantTurbopump
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PumpRadius_m 0.18
RotationalSpeed_RPM 411
CoolantInletTemperature_K 1230
FrequencyDoubler
NonlinearOptic
Composition Silver Gallium Selenide
OpticLength_m 0.01
OpticRadius_m 0.0008
SecondFrequencyDoubler
NonlinearOptic
Composition Barium Borate
OpticLength_m 0.018
OpticRadius_m 0013
ApertureRadius_m 0.3
FocusingMirror
Composition Aluminum
Turret
InnerRadius_m 0.68
ArmorComposition Nitrile Rubber
ArmorThickness_m 0.005
MomentumWheels
Composition Polyethylene
RotationalSpeed_RPM 3700
EngagementRange_km 200
TargetsShips true
TargetsShots true
ResistojetModule 6.31 km/s 1.00 MW Decane Gimballed Resistojet
UsesCustomName false
PowerSupplied_W 1e+006
Propellant Decane
CoilComposition Tantalum Hafnium Carbide
ChamberLength_m 0.01
CoilRadius_m 0.0001
ThermalRocket
ChamberComposition Diamond
ThroatRadius_m 0.001
ChamberWallThickness_m 0.0069
ChamberContractionRatio 27
NozzleExpansionRatio 260
NozzleExpansionAngle_degrees 5.4
RegenerativeCooling_Percent 0.691
Injector
Composition Boron
PumpRadius_m 0.049
RotationalSpeed_RPM 600
Gimbal
InnerRadius_m 0.071
ArmorComposition Graphite Aerogel
ArmorThickness_m 0.0001
MomentumWheels
Composition Boron
RotationalSpeed_RPM 2000
GimbalAngle_degrees 3
RadiatorModule 0.5x8 Amorphous Carbon Radiator
UsesCustomName false
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PanelWidth_m 0.49
Height_m 7.7
Thickness_m 0.0015
ArmorThickness_m 0.0015
Panels 1
SurfaceFinish Diamond
RadiatorModule 0.5x8 Amorphous Carbon Radiator 2
UsesCustomName false
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PanelWidth_m 0.49
Height_m 8.4
Thickness_m 0.0015
ArmorThickness_m 0.0015
Panels 1
SurfaceFinish Diamond
PropellantTankModule 450 kg Decane Tank
UsesCustomName false
Propellant Decane
StructureComposition Boron
ReactionMass_kg 450
HeightToRadiusRatio 20
AdditionalArmorThickness_m 0
PropellantTankModule 450 kg Decane Drop Tank
UsesCustomName false
Propellant Decane
StructureComposition Boron
ReactionMass_kg 450
HeightToRadiusRatio 20
AdditionalArmorThickness_m 0
External
ExplosiveBoltMass_kg 0.01
ExplosiveBoltComposition Nitrocellulose
CraftBlueprint Issitoq MkI ER
Modules
Default Remote Control 1 0.67586 null 0
2.50 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor 1 3.5159 null 0
1.000 MW Titanium:Sapphire Near Ultraviolet Laser - David367th 1 11.769 null 0
6.31 km/s 1.00 MW Decane Gimballed Resistojet 1 0 null 0
0.5x8 Amorphous Carbon Radiator 1 3.8378 1.000 MW Titanium:Sapphire Near Ultraviolet Laser - David367th 3.14
0.5x8 Amorphous Carbon Radiator 2 1 4.2117 2.50 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor 0
450 kg Decane Tank 1 0 null 0
1.50 m x 0 m Spacer 1 -0.5 null 0
1.50 m x 0 m Spacer 1 -0.25 null 0
450 kg Decane Drop Tank 2 4.6338 null 1.57
Armor
ArmorLayers
Nitrile Rubber 0.0011 0.019 0 1 1
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Post by caiaphas on Jan 13, 2017 23:28:01 GMT
So this ain't nearly as impressive as anyone else's stuff recently, but I happened to pause at an opportune moment.    So, uh. Yeah. Apparently, when you throw a 1.9 kilo missile at 14 km/s relative into an enemy gunship, it tends to punch through the frontal armor and score one-hit kills. |
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