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Post by Dhan on Jun 22, 2017 8:10:18 GMT
Been trying with no success. Also noticed that the tool deletes the payload blueprint thing (the one in the ship design section in-game) for my railgun payloads, so the only thing that exists in the export file is the rad shield module. But trying to manually add it back in with the correct names results in a trip to crash city. Did you use the exact same name for the payload and rad shield? That would explain the deletion if the script doesn't also check the module type when looking for duplicates. Yeah I did. That's probably what happened then.
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Post by treptoplax on Jun 22, 2017 11:36:52 GMT
Been trying with no success. Also noticed that the tool deletes the payload blueprint thing (the one in the ship design section in-game) for my railgun payloads, so the only thing that exists in the export file is the rad shield module. But trying to manually add it back in with the correct names results in a trip to crash city. Did you use the exact same name for the payload and rad shield? That would explain the deletion if the script doesn't also check the module type when looking for duplicates. Oh, nice catch. Yeah, that definitely won't work. Also any modules named "null" or probably just numbers will break, among other things. Urgh. That's mostly fixable but tricky.
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Post by Fgdfgfthgr on Jun 23, 2017 5:21:00 GMT
So many laserstars It seem as I will lose very soon after tournament start...
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Post by nekomata on Jun 23, 2017 9:16:59 GMT
Mines actually a missile carrier, the spinal mount is for point defense. This has been fun working on though. I never realized how over expensive all my shit was until I started working on my entry. I may not win, but it's at least going to be interesting.
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Post by Fgdfgfthgr on Jun 23, 2017 9:32:24 GMT
Mines actually a missile carrier, the spinal mount is for point defense. This has been fun working on though. I never realized how over expensive all my shit was until I started working on my entry. I may not win, but it's at least going to be interesting. Me too, I find so many interests after tried make a ship less than 5Mc
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Post by Argopeilacos on Jun 23, 2017 9:37:06 GMT
So, how many entries have been submitted already?
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Post by randommechanicumguy on Jun 23, 2017 15:42:55 GMT
So, how many entries have been submitted already? 7 so far, we only need one more ship to do the 8 ship tournament
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Post by batflag on Jun 23, 2017 19:20:33 GMT
I have an entry! I've been 95% done with it for two weeks, but got slammed with work and weekend vacations and kept putting it off. I'll just strip off a little armor to squeak under the weight and dV limits and send it out to you tonight as it is.
It's a kinetic-based gunboat. It has one secret trick which, 25% of the time, works every time.
I had a lot of fun with this. I have to admit that others might recognize bits of their own designs in my entry. My approach is to assemble and tweak anything I find interesting on the forum. Off the top of my head, I borrowed liberally from the designs of aphophys, tukuro, and Rocket Witch, but many others too. I think of it like how different species of bacteria exchange snippets of DNA freely, to speed up evolution.
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Post by randommechanicumguy on Jun 23, 2017 21:05:27 GMT
I have an entry! I've been 95% done with it for two weeks, but got slammed with work and weekend vacations and kept putting it off. I'll just strip off a little armor to squeak under the weight and dV limits and send it out to you tonight as it is. It's a kinetic-based gunboat. It has one secret trick which, 25% of the time, works every time. I had a lot of fun with this. I have to admit that others might recognize bits of their own designs in my entry. My approach is to assemble and tweak anything I find interesting on the forum. Off the top of my head, I borrowed liberally from the designs of aphophys, tukuro, and Rocket Witch, but many others too. I think of it like how different species of bacteria exchange snippets of DNA freely, to speed up evolution. I mean it's good we've got another entry, however it would be a good thing to discuss plagiarism and ripping designs from other people. I personally don't mind however some people might do
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Post by treptoplax on Jun 23, 2017 21:29:43 GMT
I would assume if people are posted detailed specs of their stuff on the forums they're expecting or even hoping for it to become standard-issue. I find it hard to believe (well, Ok, I know somebody on the internet always has an issue) people would get too worked up as long as you aren't explicitly claiming it as original. Certainly anybody wanting to copy my stuff is more than welcome.
For the record, I used modified versions of Tessfield's LRR micro reactor and (now-obsolete) nukes nearly verbatim from the Solar System Organization of Standardization thread, and of course my armor scheme is mostly based on a discussion in one of the threads on that while back (I don't recall offhand who suggested the layering pattern mine is based on). None of my original modules are terribly interesting, although I think the tactical doctrine implied by the designs is a little unusual (or has been abandoned by everybody else as useless and nobody told me. I guess we'll see!).
Now that we have comment boxes in the module specs (that's new as of 1.1.2?), it might be worth crediting module designers, but maybe the Steam workshop stuff will make that moot once it goes through a couple iterations.
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Post by batflag on Jun 24, 2017 0:33:34 GMT
I don't take the designs of others and use them unmodified. I use them as an optimized starting point.
I used versions of apophys' reactor designs, tukuro's armor design, and Rocket Witch's miniaturized drone designs. If my entry should do well (not too likely!) they should get some of the credit. I stand on the shoulders of giants etc.
Sending my design now.
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Post by randommechanicumguy on Jun 24, 2017 8:53:00 GMT
ok everyone. this is the moment you've been waiting for, i'm gonna record the fights very soon, expect some updates on the op ps - sorry batflag. but i could'nt fit your ship in the tournament, that would require me to have an extra 8 players for the tournament to work
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Post by nekomata on Jun 24, 2017 8:58:51 GMT
Neat, just got home from work. Is it going to be livestreamed?
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Post by batflag on Jun 24, 2017 11:05:02 GMT
ok everyone. this is the moment you've been waiting for, i'm gonna record the fights very soon, expect some updates on the op ps - sorry batflag. but i could'nt fit your ship in the tournament, that would require me to have an extra 8 players for the tournament to work That's a shame.
This design uses a decoy method which probably won't work without the element of surprise. Since I hate for my work to go to waste, I'll go ahead and release it here in case other tournament players want to test it on their own: (must revert to version 1.1.1 in steam) This requires the striker AI to allow it to launch the catnip drones only in combat. Even then, it seems to forget to launch them occasionally.
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Post by randommechanicumguy on Jun 24, 2017 12:10:27 GMT
Neat, just got home from work. Is it going to be livestreamed? if you want it to be, i'll do that, but i got some shoutcraft kings to watch
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