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Post by Enderminion on Jun 8, 2017 3:10:03 GMT
Hey Rocket Witch someone mentioned on discord (who I don't think has an account here) that Aramid Fiber has potential as an Asbestos substitute. Could you find the data for asbestos so I could see if they're interchangeable for laser resistance? Doubtful. I've looked before on my own accord. That 0.07 thermal conductivity sure looks nice, but online data concerned with properties and use of rather than safety and removal of asbestos are a rarity. The stuff was outlawed long before people used the Internet to advertise and trade such things. I have looked for other building materials like concrete and brick too, but very little luck getting more than density and compressive strength for them. someusername6 might do better than me with their library card, if interested. I remember when a building got taken down where I work, we threw some of the corrugated ceramic roof panelling which supposedly contained asbestos into a fire and it exploded. 10/10 heat resistance.I. Can't. Stop. Laughing. At. This.
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Post by AdmiralObvious on Jun 8, 2017 6:17:39 GMT
Those posts made me really want to put in the request... we must have asbestos as a useable material in game.
Solid, single piece, raw asbestos.
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Post by David367th on Jun 8, 2017 19:21:00 GMT
Hey Rocket Witch someone mentioned on discord (who I don't think has an account here) that Aramid Fiber has potential as an Asbestos substitute. Could you find the data for asbestos so I could see if they're interchangeable for laser resistance? Doubtful. I've looked before on my own accord. That 0.07 thermal conductivity sure looks nice, but online data concerned with properties and use of rather than safety and removal of asbestos are a rarity. The stuff was outlawed long before people used the Internet to advertise and trade such things. I have looked for other building materials like concrete and brick too, but very little luck getting more than density and compressive strength for them. someusername6 might do better than me with their library card, if interested. I remember when a building got taken down where I work, we threw some of the corrugated ceramic roof panelling which supposedly contained asbestos into a fire and it exploded. 10/10 heat resistance. I searched a little bit with my own library and found nothing. Its no big deal if you can't find anything. Good luck with work, hope you don't explode anytime soon.
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Post by zorbeltuss on Jun 13, 2017 19:31:53 GMT
Hey Rocket Witch someone mentioned on discord (who I don't think has an account here) that Aramid Fiber has potential as an Asbestos substitute. Could you find the data for asbestos so I could see if they're interchangeable for laser resistance? Doubtful. I've looked before on my own accord. That 0.07 thermal conductivity sure looks nice, but online data concerned with properties and use of rather than safety and removal of asbestos are a rarity. The stuff was outlawed long before people used the Internet to advertise and trade such things. I have looked for other building materials like concrete and brick too, but very little luck getting more than density and compressive strength for them. someusername6 might do better than me with their library card, if interested. I remember when a building got taken down where I work, we threw some of the corrugated ceramic roof panelling which supposedly contained asbestos into a fire and it exploded. 10/10 heat resistance. Someone set fire to the container that had discarded asbestos here when the sanitation of asbestos of this apartment complex was going on, I don't remember what they used to set the fire, but there was hardly even soot. The fire departement was really annoyed because they needed maximum safety equipment to deal with a fire that basically died on its own, so my experience is different to say the least, could it have been violent thermal cracking of the tile? Otherwise I'd doubt that it actually was asbestos.
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Post by zorbeltuss on Jun 13, 2017 19:56:02 GMT
Those posts made me really want to put in the request... we must have asbestos as a useable material in game. Solid, single piece, raw asbestos. Single piece would probably be extremely costly since it's a fiber, it would be good for the health aspects though since only the shorter fibers are a health hazard. But yeah, asbestos would be fun!
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Post by Enderminion on Jun 13, 2017 21:53:22 GMT
sooo, long Asbestos is safe?
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Post by zorbeltuss on Jun 13, 2017 23:53:42 GMT
sooo, long Asbestos is safe? Yep, it doesn't get into your lungs so safe unless you voluntarily put it there, the problem with the smallest fibers is that at the slightest provocation they become airborne and they can stay that way for long periods of time at which point you breathe them in, the longer the fiber the more difficult to accomplish that. There has been work trying to synthesize longer asbestos fibers since the 50's though and I haven't heard of any success, though I can't imagine it'd be easy to get funding for such projects.
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Post by dwwolf on Jun 14, 2017 5:32:13 GMT
For all intemts and purposes its been replaced by various iterations of glass and synthetic fibers.
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Post by Rocket Witch on Jun 14, 2017 19:42:33 GMT
Basalt fiber composite is the closest ingame substitute for asbestos. Both materials are made from high-silica minerals. zorbeltuss The tiles probably were just regular clay type stuff, for the most part, with only a minor proportion of asbestos, if any. The stuff didn't actually ignite at all — indeed it cracked violently, sending a few pieces flying.
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Post by Kerr on Jun 14, 2017 19:47:51 GMT
Basalt fiber composite is the closest ingame substitute for asbestos. Both materials are made from high-silica minerals. zorbeltuss The tiles probably were just regular clay type stuff, for the most part, with only a minor proportion of asbestos, if any. The stuff didn't actually ignite at all — indeed it cracked violently, sending a few pieces flying. Are you planning to add the new Fusion propulsion mod which the Astrogator made?
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Post by Rocket Witch on Jun 15, 2017 15:58:42 GMT
Are you planning to add the new Fusion propulsion mod which the Astrogator made? Astro? No. Rift posted one; where is Astro's?
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Post by Kerr on Jun 15, 2017 16:00:35 GMT
Are you planning to add the new Fusion propulsion mod which the Astrogator made? Astro? No. Rift posted one; where is Astro's? At his thread, he updated it few days ago.
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Post by The Astronomer on Jun 15, 2017 16:00:52 GMT
Are you planning to add the new Fusion propulsion mod which the Astrogator made? Astro? No. Rift posted one; where is Astro's? I have an overhauled version of all of them here.
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Post by captinjoehenry on Jun 18, 2017 1:25:06 GMT
Does anyone know what the laser damage threshold of carbon / graphene is? It is defined for a fair few metals but I don't see it on most other sections.
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Post by Rocket Witch on Jun 18, 2017 6:28:07 GMT
Does anyone know what the laser damage threshold of carbon / graphene is? It is defined for a fair few metals but I don't see it on most other sections. Diamond is the only carbon allotrope with one defined, at 510MW/m 2.
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