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Post by argonbalt on Jan 19, 2017 0:06:42 GMT
I bet that will lead to a lot of black-ops, cloak and dagger stuff. We might wanna keep that in mind. That depends on there being anything of significant value worth "capturing" on Earth. Outside of living space and artefacts, most of the mega corps are out there fighting amongst the planets. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Jan 19, 2017 0:12:58 GMT
That will probably be a special mission: destroy an Earth invasion fleet. The treaty was signed by every major factions, and factions which didn't sign will get a trade sanction.
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Post by theholyinquisition on Jan 19, 2017 0:54:46 GMT
I bet that will lead to a lot of black-ops, cloak and dagger stuff. We might wanna keep that in mind. That depends on there being anything of significant value worth "capturing" on Earth. Outside of living space and artefacts, most of the mega corps are out there fighting amongst the planets. Customers. And workers(if those are still relevant.) Besides, there are things on earth you can't get elsewhere. For instance, the boron and lithium that we use so often in game is not known to be present in asteroids. The question is if it's worth spending all that delta-v. |
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Post by argonbalt on Jan 19, 2017 1:21:54 GMT
that is still pretty iffy, i doubt abducting people is really worth it considering how well most people get on making babies elsewhere, not to mention it would be easier to haul DNA samples than whole humans. The Boron and Lithium could be readily present on other planets as far as we know, if there is any heavy industry on Earth than it would likely be those few remaining irreplaceable jobs, and they would be closely monitored.
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Post by Hyperant on Jan 19, 2017 2:01:21 GMT
Hyper Productions HQ > Mars Construction Site > Phobos Hyper productions, a Nippon Prime based civil-military manufacturing company that produces everything from light escort vessels to everyday civilian ships.
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Post by newageofpower on Jan 19, 2017 2:33:46 GMT
/GEIS Case Red Clearance AcknowledgedWARNING: EYES ONLY – UNAUTHORIZED PERUSAL OF DATA WITHIN IS PUNISHABLE VIA UNLIMITED RETALIATIONMercury-Eris Whisker Laser Transmission decoded approximately 547 hours after intercept. Encryption broken via nth-state quantum machinery. Less than two hours after initial transmission, agent DS-1919 was captured and compromised. We feared the worst - but this disaster has exceeded even our worst-case projections. The client is not going to be happy. Recommendation: Deploy the first and fourth Black Ops squadrons to 624 Hektor. Primary Objective: Prevent the handoff of AHI sensitive materiels and knowledge to SSOS/IC Secondary Objective: Provoke SSOS and/or AHI into a corporate war via hostile False Flag Operations Tertiary Objective: Acquire AHI materiels and/or blueprints. /ooc tessfield check your PM inbox for the Hydrogen Steamer deliveries.
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Post by David367th on Jan 20, 2017 0:48:32 GMT
[JD2231] I am afraid that the tension will result in a war. Sounds like World War One in a nutshell. Who's getting assassinated this time? |
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Post by theholyinquisition on Jan 20, 2017 1:25:40 GMT
The heir to [decaying multi-ethnic state]. The alliance system will put [more decayed, but enormously powerful] at war with [decaying multi-ethnic state], which will result in [frustrated, advanced, imperial mega-power] declaring war on them. Therefore [revanchist, republican country] will declare war on [frustrated, advanced, imperial mega-power]. In order to defeat [revanchist, republican country], the [frustrated, advanced, imperial mega-power] will invade [tiny nation]. Therefore [colonial, equal to mega-power, nation] will join the war.
We just need to find who fits the slots.
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Post by David367th on Jan 20, 2017 1:27:34 GMT
How do you make a maginot line in space?
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Post by theholyinquisition on Jan 20, 2017 1:30:13 GMT
That's second world war, not first.
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Post by David367th on Jan 20, 2017 1:32:47 GMT
That's second world war, not first. Well shit, I gotta go back to history lessons. Meanwhile in terms of Project Prosperous part 2: Electric Space Boogaloo how do you make a Maginot line in space. |
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Post by theholyinquisition on Jan 20, 2017 1:41:19 GMT
I don't think you can. Forts in space are a bad idea, and planetary (or asteroidal, or lunar) emplacements have to fight the gravity.
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Post by newageofpower on Jan 20, 2017 2:20:37 GMT
Vast planet-based Near IR laser stations may be viable, due to the incredible advantage of having a 373k (or colder!) heatsink to work with instead of using radiators.
On lower gravity bodies with thinner atmospheres, coilgun installations may be viable too, again abusing the free heatsink.
Space warfare defenses, though, will likely require heavy orbital defense platforms. These will have *some* dodging ability to prevent getting cheesed with long range kinetics, and may be designed to be supported by the ground-based installations.
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Post by nihilrex on Jan 20, 2017 2:32:50 GMT
Vast planet-based Near IR laser stations may be viable, due to the incredible advantage of having a 373k (or colder!) heatsink to work with instead of using radiators. On lower gravity bodies with thinner atmospheres, coilgun installations may be viable too, again abusing the free heatsink. Space warfare defenses, though, will likely require heavy orbital defense platforms. These will have *some* dodging ability to prevent getting cheesed with long range kinetics, and may be designed to be supported by the ground-based installations. Massive distributed mirror arrays, and dispersed laser generation stations. A mini-SAPL, for those who have read the Troy series. |
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Post by argonbalt on Jan 20, 2017 3:31:27 GMT
I don't think you can. Forts in space are a bad idea, and planetary (or asteroidal, or lunar) emplacements have to fight the gravity. No dude, orbital asteroid forts are actually like, the best thing ever. We went over this in the orbital fortress thread a few months back. Think about this for a second, back in the medieval period what was the use of a castle? It was really great for three big reasons: 1. Built staffed and properly observing the lay of the land, a castle could exert and tendril of power over an entire area, observing and reporting on the border and on major hubs of trade. But there was the downsides of positioning, higher up may give you a better advantage, but be harder to move troops from and construct. Lower down and you will be vulnerable without moats and the like.
2. You are unavoidable. if properly equipped with an army, a castle is a waiting battle at your back if you try to sneak around. You get to send out a fully furnished army and destroy their extended supply lines and then attack them. The downside is that they would try to smash your lands and kill enough of your peasants so as to make it so expensive that you have to come out and deal with them.3. A small number of defenders can hold off a much larger force. The castle acts as a force multiplier and forces the attackers into a long siege. This enables your sides armies to engage the attackers, but you also might run out of food and water.Now castles disappeared due to a combination of projectiles and artillery and so on, but an asteroid fortress gets all of these benefits and loses all of the downsides of traditional fortification: 1.YOU CAN NOW SEE FOREVER! Positioning no longer matter because unless your target is behind the sun(and even then spy sats could view it). In addition there is so much space you can now see any would be attacker, or their projectile attacks coming from miles away. 2.YOU ARE YOUR LANDS! the resources you protect are now actually inside protected by your rock, so assuming they want them and not simply to crack your fort to pieces, there is no easy way at your collateral. IN addition the rock your on might be a stony type made out of oxygen,hydrogen and all the stuff you'd need to fuel a fleet to attack your enemies, or it might be a metallic type from which you could straight up build entirely new ships! 3.You can hide and mount a far greater number of weapons all over the place! So even if your enemy spots something like a metal hatch, it might have a laser behind it or maybe just a refuelling bay. Numerous lasers/rail-guns etc could be stashed away! likewise you could be using the very asteroid to build new missiles right now! As to the force multiplier you also get the advantage of having all the food habitation power and water facilities with none of the hassle of hauling it across a solar system! Your enemy meanwhile has to recycle everything and eat through stockpiled foodstuffs. Asteroid fortresses are like actually really dangerous and powerful, their main downside would probably massed orbital bombardment, but even then it is possible that the thing will have enough mass drivers and lasers to simply melt/shoot your projectiles off. |
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