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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 17, 2016 19:43:55 GMT
Hmm well in that case I'll give it a shot myself! But just to be perfectly clear I mean the aerogel to be mounted with the wiffle shield right on top of it and the main belt right behind with no spacing. Also the armor section of your test vessel is cut off so if you could post the whole thing that would be great.
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Post by concretedonkey on Oct 17, 2016 19:46:02 GMT
Yep no spacing at all. Setup is not hard at all , you can see on the shots - 3cm boron , 1.4 meters aerogel , 5mm boron , again 1.4 meters aerogel and a 1cm of silcia aerogel on the outside (leftover from the old setup, I guess does nothing at all).
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 17, 2016 19:48:11 GMT
Yep no spacing at all. Setup is not hard at all , you can see on the shots - 3cm boron , 1.4 meters aerogel , 5mm boron , again 1.4 meters aerogel and a 1cm of silcia aerogel on the outside (leftover from the old setup, I guess does nothing at all). Hmm that is surprising that it is doing so well without a topper wiffle shield. Have you tried this with a second wiffle shield instead of the silica aerogel? And have you tested it against rail guns and coil guns? Those seem to be the main ship killers and it sounded like you were mostly testing against a conventional cannon? |
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Post by concretedonkey on Oct 17, 2016 19:53:46 GMT
Conventional cannons, micro nukes , high speed small shrapnell combined with very heavy very concentrated shrapnell that should be a similar threat as a railgun. A few bigger nukes launched from the carrier vessel. A large HE barrage launched when everything else failed. What I saw on the hull looked like penetrated from time to time , just the damage was very ... limited ? At the end the ship lost the last radiator but the hull was mostly intact.
Edit : I usually do not consider large coilguns really a threat at all. Sure they can kill , but when you are in range you have either already won or already lost. If you won , the enemy doesn't have any power for them. If you lost then you have no power and you might just as easily be killed by a tiny 3 kilogram conventional cannon.
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 17, 2016 19:55:46 GMT
Well that is quite an extensive test! I will definitely have to mess around with that armor setup then as it is definitely far cheaper than what I currently use and has some really great protection. Definitely a good find!
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Post by pokington on Oct 17, 2016 22:13:00 GMT
concretedonkey - That's pretty awesome and I will be testing it. captinjoe - I hate to do this, man, but it's whipple shield.  |
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Post by bluuetechnic on Oct 17, 2016 22:52:04 GMT
Do we maybe want to ask qswitched about this? This just strikes me as being off. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Oct 18, 2016 2:39:33 GMT
Hmmm, maybe I will try this out later.
I know an armor scheme that's light weight but really expensive.
I know an armor scheme that's cheap but really heavy.
I hope this goes in between instead of having to make more compromise again.
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 18, 2016 3:11:03 GMT
Ok after a bit of testing of the aerogel armor it turns out the thin inner whipple shield does not do anything. Also graphite aerogel is quite vulnerable to lasers. So if you give it an outer coat of silica aerogel it's performance goes up quite a lot against laser ships
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Post by redparadize on Oct 18, 2016 3:40:37 GMT
For the same thickness it is definitively true. I did not do a comparison between them with equal mass, but graphite is 10 times lighter than silica. Thats allot, if silica is 10 times more effective then there is a argument to make, if not well them...
I use to have tin spaced armor in the front of my ship, and they heated much quicker than non spaced armor. So I filled the gap between wipe shield using graphite. I "seem" to help to spread the heat better.
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 18, 2016 3:43:57 GMT
Well I mean use a thin coat of silica aerogel on top of the graphite aerogel. That'll provide protection from lasers and the weight savings from the graphite aerogel. I think it's a pretty good compermise.
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Post by concretedonkey on Oct 18, 2016 4:15:15 GMT
I did plan to test with a bigger outer armor layer than 5mm , but there was no time... maybe after work today. These are only the first results frankly. If I have to guess why it works , it may sound silly but , could it be that the graphite aerogel acting as a soft "cushion" and a heat insulator at the same time? Sort of stops the small fragments , decrease the speed of the larger ones and then they are stopped by the hard layer much more easily ?
THe largest difference with the hard shell tests is that usually after the micro missile barrage there are large areas of the armor literally glowing as if hit by a nuke. This is not happening here at all.
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Post by dragonkid11 on Oct 18, 2016 5:11:17 GMT
Maybe switching out the thin whipple shield with something else like titanium or so?
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Post by tuna on Oct 18, 2016 10:04:26 GMT
For the same thickness it is definitively true. I did not do a comparison between them with equal mass, but graphite is 10 times lighter than silica. Thats allot, if silica is 10 times more effective then there is a argument to make, if not well them... For anti-laser work, silica aerogel is not 10 times more effective. Based on my tests, it's more like 10000 times more effective. Yes, really. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Oct 18, 2016 11:01:28 GMT
Okay, I tried out the armor composition and holy hell it was good.
I changed the armor of my carrier, Broken Quiver and two of my small sized gunboat, Broken Sword.
I then launched 20 of my micro drone with lightened 33mm cannon used by the stock Stinger drone, Dagger III against them.
They shot them up.
No problem, I sent a 40 wave next time.
Then they ate the bullet like it's nothing.
I sent out what's left in the stock, 60 of them.
It BARELY managed to take down one of the gunboat, they just ate so much of the bullets, it's ridiculous.
As an emergency, I sent out my own carrier out and I had to tactically move her around because both sides has 47 kmps coilgun that reach out to 300 kilometer range.
It was intense as all hell as I dodged the red metal beam and got some radiator scraped off the hull.
It seems that my drone has managed to take out the engine or fuel tank because the gunboat isn't moving at all. That's one thing to note as my carrier finally shot down the gunboat after 10 seconds of direct fire from 3 coilgun.
I AM going to use this armor from now on, because this is fucking good.
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