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Post by newageofpower on Apr 16, 2017 15:51:10 GMT
Yep. I don't think it's a good idea; the thrust/efficiency (i.e. dV) trade-off is too massive. Also, Mercury has very different vaporization and fluid flow characteristics from, say, methane propellant. Injecting Mercury into the fuel stream may cause explosive disassembly events. Inject in small amount to cause small explosions, which enhance exhaust velocity and thrust? Not when the reactor core and nozzle are within 1% of meltdown and chamber rupture. The fuel flow eddies/core overheating are symptoms of design inefficiency, not actual gains from putting stuff in fuel stream - an unplanned disruption in coolant (propellant) flow that is not matched by alteration in reactor heat is extremely dangerous.
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Post by thorneel on Apr 16, 2017 20:39:31 GMT
The IRL design had filthy heresies such as SAFETY MECHANISMS and MARGINS FOR ERROR. We, the GLORIOUS MINMAXER COADE ENGINEERS shall avoid such follies and approach THEORETICAL MAXIMAL LIMITS. IN NOMINE Sempai~. As much as I appreciate the memeing: Everything in the game has been tested and tried in real life. Even the Fluorine/lithium/hydrogen was designed, built, and fired at test stand. (warning, large pdf.) *cough*radon *cough*
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Post by alias72 on Apr 16, 2017 23:24:09 GMT
MWAHAHAHA! I have done it! I have built a ship that is 1/4 decent for its size!!!! It can joust with this defense craft I have yet to test it against lasers. I attempted to develop an AMS system for it but failed miserably. It has taken 1 km/s frontal hits from flakshells and laughed. The armour layers listed go from tail to nose. The tail has an armoured cap to prevent the engine from being disabled. Also UHMWPE is the best material ever invented and purchasable in bulk. Of course if you have feedback that would be welcome. The only part I didn't design was the power reactor. I haven't figured out how yet. I expect the craft will fare much better when my missile guidance problem is solved.
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Post by RiftandRend on Apr 16, 2017 23:43:33 GMT
I recommend amorphous carbon over silicon nitride, as its better in every way.
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Post by newageofpower on Apr 17, 2017 0:02:04 GMT
I recommend amorphous carbon over silicon nitride, as its better in every way. what if you just like the other color better, huh?!?
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Post by theholyinquisition on Apr 17, 2017 0:02:49 GMT
Actually, if we can get tripropellants working, a tank of mercury pumped into your combustion chamber should boost thrust nicely. Wouldn't the temperature losses due to the added mercury reduce the thrust more rapidly than the added exhaust mass? This isn't my idea. Ignition!(again!) pages 177-180: "Why not use the densest known substance which is liquid at room temperature — mercury itself? Just squirt it into the chamber of a motor burning, say, acid-UDMH. It would evaporate into a monatomic gas (with a low Cp, which would help performance), and would go out the nozzle with the combustion products. That technique should give Phil all the density he wanted! Charmed by the delightful nuttiness of the idea, I reached for the calculator. For my calculations I used the monopropellant Cavea A, not only because it had a good density by itself (1.5) but because it would be simpler to handle two liquids than three in the wildly improbable event that things ever got as far as motor work. I calculated the performance of Cavea A with various proportions of mercury —up to six times the mass of the primary propellant. (It was easy to fit mercury into the NQD calculation method.) As expected, the specific impulse dropped outrageously as mercury was added to the system, but the density impulse (specific impulse X propellant density) rose spectacularly, to peak at 50 percent above that of the neat monopropellant with a mercury/propellant ratio of about 4.8. The next thing was to set up the boost velocity equation: cb =c In (1 + <pd), and to plug in the results of the performance calculations. I did this for various values of <p* plotting the percentage increase in boost velocity over that produced by the neat propellant against the percentage of the (fixed) tank volume filled with mercury rather than propellant. The result was spectacular. With cp = 0.1, and 27.5 percent of the tank volume filled with mercury instead of propellant, the bulk density was 4.9 and the boost velocity was about 31 percent above that of the neat propellant; at cp = 0.2 there was a 20 percent increase with 21 volume percent of mercury. At <p = 1.0, on the other hand, the best you could get was a 2 percent increase in boost velocity with 5 volume percent of mercury. Obviously, a missile with a low <p, such as an air-to-air job, was where this system belonged— if anywhere. * <p, as you may remember, is a loading factor: the propellant tank volume divided by the dry mass (all propellants gone) of the missile. If there are ten kilograms of dry mass per liter of tank volume, <p = 1/10, or 0.1. [Removed paragraphs] At NOTS, Dean Couch and D. G. Nyberg took over the job, and by March 1960 had completed their experiments. They used a 250-pound thrust RFNA-UDMH motor, and injected mercury through a tap in the chamber wall. And the thing did work. They used up to 31 volume percent of mercury in their runs, and found that at 20 percent they got a 40 percent increase in density impulse. (I had calculated 43.) As they were firing in the middle of the desert, they didn't bother with the scrubber. And they didn't poison a single rattlesnake. Technically, the system was a complete success. Practically—that was something else again."
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Post by theholyinquisition on Apr 17, 2017 0:07:11 GMT
Radon? I do not understand.
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 17, 2017 2:52:32 GMT
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Post by theholyinquisition on Apr 17, 2017 3:31:55 GMT
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 17, 2017 3:39:09 GMT
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Post by David367th on Apr 17, 2017 3:53:08 GMT
alias72 most of your ship is alright, but your missiles seem to be actively avoiding their target.
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Post by thorneel on Apr 17, 2017 10:32:45 GMT
Indeed. Radon has two problems: it is quite radioactive, and it has a half-life of a few days. Still, I'm glad it is a (totally non-viable) option for the lulz.
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 17, 2017 13:05:16 GMT
I wish it could make thermal rockets by itself
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Post by David367th on Apr 17, 2017 16:12:43 GMT
I wish it could make thermal rockets by itself You mean as the nuclear fuel in an NTR?
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 17, 2017 17:19:41 GMT
sure its radioactive
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