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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 19:26:35 GMT
KerrI'm thinking of adding in a battery of coaxial rail guns to the Crater class to help with orbital saturation fires. Regarding the Dictator class, they are glass jawed bruisers. Massive firepower. Really just torrential firepower mounted on a hull that can't take anywhere near the level of punishment that the Systems Commonwealth ships can. I actually have to go back and review my maths a little bit because I think I can correct the firepower gulf most of the way by correcting the ROF on the Dictator's particle beams. Also, I'd just ignore Enderminion if I were you. He rarely says anything worth commenting on or rebutting. Interesting, but still. Your Crater class can one-shot an dictactor class if it hit the fuel tank. Also what happened between you and Enderminiin? |
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Post by Enderminion on Sept 1, 2017 19:29:09 GMT
only four hundred thousand tons? I have four million ton battleships Can I get the design of that? I need something large to test my artillery against. uses railgun armature VC steel, UTaC cements, Hafnia Diboride, Liquid Hoolium, U-233 2% Molydeum, Octanitrocubane, maybe something else idk. Link (<- link) also uses Viterous Carbon |
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Post by Enderminion on Sept 1, 2017 19:30:27 GMT
Kerr I'm thinking of adding in a battery of coaxial rail guns to the Crater class to help with orbital saturation fires. Regarding the Dictator class, they are glass jawed bruisers. Massive firepower. Really just torrential firepower mounted on a hull that can't take anywhere near the level of punishment that the Systems Commonwealth ships can. I actually have to go back and review my maths a little bit because I think I can correct the firepower gulf most of the way by correcting the ROF on the Dictator's particle beams. Also, I'd just ignore Enderminion if I were you. He rarely says anything worth commenting on or rebutting. Interesting, but still. Your Crater class can one-shot an dictactor class if it hit the fuel tank. Also what happened between you and Enderminiin? we had a disagreement on X-ray bomb-pumped lasers and casaba howitzers, I thought bomb pumped lasers could have similer range to Free Electron Lasers, s/he did not think that |
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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 19:38:26 GMT
Interesting, but still. Your Crater class can one-shot an dictactor class if it hit the fuel tank. Also what happened between you and Enderminiin? we had a disagreement on X-ray bomb-pumped lasers and casaba howitzers, I thought bomb pumped lasers could have similer range to Free Electron Lasers, s/he did not think that Lol, had the same disagreement on the same topic with matterbeam once. |
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Post by ironclad6 on Sept 1, 2017 19:39:36 GMT
Enderminion . If you think I dislike you because we degree on a technical topic you're very much mistaken. I dislike you because you don't learn. I dislike you because you clearly knew you were wrong but continued to attempt to browbeat myself and princesskibble regardless. I could speculate as to why you behave like this but honestly I don't care enough about you as a human being to make the attempt. You don't heed the reasoned opinions of others and you're arrogant, condescending and rude to to boot. You contribute nothing and since we had that disagreement you've engaged in a pattern of petty point scoring that I've noticed but largely ignored. The funny thing is that you're not just rude to me. You're rude to everyone which at least shows it's not personal. Kerr . I think that's a problem. The flip side is that that she first has to get close enough to do so, all the while weathering a hail of particle accelerator fire, missiles and rail gun armatures. X-ray lasers are means as hell but their intensity still drops to the square of range. All the same, I'm thinking I might need to narrow the technological gap between the two factions somewhat.
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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 19:47:26 GMT
Enderminion . If you think I dislike you because we degree on a technical topic you're very much mistaken. I dislike you because you don't learn. I dislike you because you clearly knew you were wrong but continued to attempt to browbeat myself and princesskibble . You don't heed the reasoned opinions of others and you're arrogant, condescending and rude to to boot. Since we had that disagreement you've engaged in a pattern of petty point scoring that I've noticed but largely ignored. The funny thing is that you're not just rude to me. You're rude to everyone which at least shows it's not personal. Kerr . I think that's a problem. The flip side is that that she first has to get close enough to do so, all the while weathering a hail of particle accelerator fire, missiles and rail gun armatures. X-ray lasers are means as hell but their intensity still drops to the square of range. All the same, I'm thinking I might need to narrow the technological gap between the two factions somewhat. But particle beam suffer even more from that. An particle accelerator is comparable to an red laser. |
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Post by ironclad6 on Sept 1, 2017 19:52:46 GMT
Enderminion . If you think I dislike you because we degree on a technical topic you're very much mistaken. I dislike you because you don't learn. I dislike you because you clearly knew you were wrong but continued to attempt to browbeat myself and princesskibble . You don't heed the reasoned opinions of others and you're arrogant, condescending and rude to to boot. Since we had that disagreement you've engaged in a pattern of petty point scoring that I've noticed but largely ignored. The funny thing is that you're not just rude to me. You're rude to everyone which at least shows it's not personal. Kerr . I think that's a problem. The flip side is that that she first has to get close enough to do so, all the while weathering a hail of particle accelerator fire, missiles and rail gun armatures. X-ray lasers are means as hell but their intensity still drops to the square of range. All the same, I'm thinking I might need to narrow the technological gap between the two factions somewhat. But particle beam suffer even more from that. An particle accelerator is comparable to an red laser. Only if you use charged particles. It's harder accelerate neutrons but they don't suffer from beam diffusion. You take a hit to efficiency for all of the extra shit you have to carry and power. That said, your basic point remains sound. X-ray lasers are out. |
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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 19:58:42 GMT
But particle beam suffer even more from that. An particle accelerator is comparable to an red laser. Only if you use charged particles. It's harder accelerate neutrons but they don't suffer from beam diffusion. You take a hit to efficiency for all of the extra shit you have to carry and power. That said, your basic point remains sound. X-ray lasers are out. No, even if your total net charge is 0 you will have to deal with thermal blooming. Which is way worse than beam diffusion. |
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Post by ironclad6 on Sept 1, 2017 20:05:26 GMT
Only if you use charged particles. It's harder accelerate neutrons but they don't suffer from beam diffusion. You take a hit to efficiency for all of the extra shit you have to carry and power. That said, your basic point remains sound. X-ray lasers are out. No, even if your total net charge is 0 you will have to deal with thermal blooming. Which is way worse than beam diffusion. I hadn't accounted for thermal blooming. That basically limits particle beams to knife fight range. Guess she needs a bigger rail gun battery. |
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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 20:07:07 GMT
No, even if your total net charge is 0 you will have to deal with thermal blooming. Which is way worse than beam diffusion. I hadn't accounted for thermal blooming. That basically limits particle beams to knife fight range. Guess she needs a bigger rail gun battery. Status update on your missiles/drones each faction? |
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Post by ironclad6 on Sept 1, 2017 20:20:54 GMT
I hadn't accounted for thermal blooming. That basically limits particle beams to knife fight range. Guess she needs a bigger rail gun battery. Status update on your missiles/drones each faction? The current iteration of Whisker is an D-He3 driven missile bus carrying ~90ish 10kg KSOW Mk X. The SPIKE missiles are MPDT driven 19.6Kt warhead. SPIKE is a kind of interceptor. High acceleration, low DV. Intended to knock out incoming fire en masse. AGDA is a 100 ton 80% zubrol driven missile with a 2.5 megaton fusion boosted nuke warhead. They're used against capital ships and surface targets where collateral damage is considered acceptable or where a point needs to be made. Aside from that there's your bunker buster and your anti-armour missile. I think I might give up on Zubrol to be honest. If it were me I'd accept the acceleration disadvantage before I'd roll around in a multi-gigaton nuclear bomb. |
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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 20:32:56 GMT
Status update on your missiles/drones each faction? The current iteration of Whisker is an D-He3 driven missile bus carrying ~90ish 10kg KSOW Mk X. The SPIKE missiles are MPDT driven 19.6Kt warhead. SPIKE is a kind of interceptor. High acceleration, low DV. Intended to knock out incoming fire en masse. AGDA is a 100 ton 80% zubrol driven missile with a 2.5 megaton fusion boosted nuke warhead. They're used against capital ships and surface targets where collateral damage is considered acceptable or where a point needs to be made. Aside from that there's your bunker buster and your anti-armour missile. I think I might give up on Zubrol to be honest. If it were me I'd accept the acceleration disadvantage before I'd roll around in a multi-gigaton nuclear bomb. Power output of your fusion/mpdt drones? |
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Post by Enderminion on Sept 1, 2017 20:34:15 GMT
neutrel particle beams can (according to atomic rockets) be held to gau-8 (<6 milirads) despersion, useless at laser combat ranges, however they can soft-kill missiles as they hard-kill them
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Post by ironclad6 on Sept 1, 2017 20:55:07 GMT
Kerr. About 35.1 TW thrust power for the Whisker IV and about half that in electrical power accounting for inefficiency and magnetic confinement sustainment. For the SPIKE missile about 100 GW powered by a high speed carbon-nanotube flywheel.
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Post by Kerr on Sept 1, 2017 20:59:03 GMT
Kerr. About 35.1 TW thrust power for the Whisker IV and about half that in electrical power accounting for inefficiency and magnetic confinement sustainment. For the SPIKE missile about 100 GW powered by a high speed carbon-nanotube flywheel. 35.1TW ?! You get 5% Neutrons for D-He3. |
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