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Post by someusername6 on Nov 20, 2016 3:52:41 GMT
So... does anyone have a spare reactor design for 100 GW? Asking for a friend.
(Or if that's not possible, as efficient as possible so I can use them instead of using 25x 10 GW reactors).
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Post by Durandal on Nov 20, 2016 3:58:45 GMT
So... does anyone have a spare reactor design for 100 GW? Asking for a friend. (Or if that's not possible, as efficient as possible so I can use them instead of using 25x 10 GW reactors). I would like to see whatever the hell you guys are building that needs 100 GW. |
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Post by someusername6 on Nov 20, 2016 4:03:48 GMT
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Post by apophys on Nov 20, 2016 5:12:53 GMT
Ask and ye shall receive. Best I can do for mass-efficient high power is 25 GW. Do be warned though that it's 60m wide. And yeah, 2400K temperatures are working out better than 2500K. I'll have to update all my reactors yet again.
ThermoelectricFissionReactorModule 25.1 GW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor
ReactorCoreDimensions_m 0.33 0.49
NuclearReactor
Coolant Sodium
Moderator Boron Nitride
ModeratorMass_kg 0
Fuel U-233 Dioxide
FuelMass_kg 251
FuelEnrichment_Percent 0.97
ControlRodComposition Boron Nitride
ControlRodMass_kg 303
NeutronReflector Diamond
ReflectorThickness_m 0.5
AverageNeutronFlux__m2_s 2.2e+020
InnerTurbopump
Composition Diamond
PumpRadius_m 2.6
RotationalSpeed_RPM 460
ThermocoupleInnerDimensions_m 30 30
Thermocouple
PTypeComposition Tungsten
NTypeComposition Tantalum
Length_m 0.001
ThermocoupleExitTemperature_K 2400
OuterCoolant Sodium
OuterTurbopump
Composition Boron
PumpRadius_m 1.1
RotationalSpeed_RPM 580
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Post by jasonvance on Nov 21, 2016 0:40:33 GMT
Can someone daisy chain together enough GW reactors to get to 44.1 EW? I found a MPD thruster that can break the speed of light and need a really powerful reactor design to try it out (already put in a bug report on the physics breaking thruster but I really want to try it before it gets patched). Or rather this is a request for the highest wattage reactors available.
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Post by n2maniac on Nov 23, 2016 20:18:11 GMT
Can someone daisy chain together enough GW reactors to get to 44.1 EW? I found a MPD thruster that can break the speed of light and need a really powerful reactor design to try it out (already put in a bug report on the physics breaking thruster but I really want to try it before it gets patched). Or rather this is a request for the highest wattage reactors available. Short answer: no. Long answer: Power density and power per radiator area don't really get better with size. You are asking for 44E9 gigawatts. I'll let you do some math and prototyping with the existing ones to try to understand just how staggeringly large your request is (for comparison: earth receives a total of 0.17 EW of solar radiation from the sun). |
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Post by amimai on Nov 23, 2016 21:22:56 GMT
its time to build that dyson sphere that I always wanted for Christmas...
or hollow out a good size asteroid like vesta and put a miniature sun in there
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Post by jasonvance on Nov 23, 2016 21:31:22 GMT
Can someone daisy chain together enough GW reactors to get to 44.1 EW? I found a MPD thruster that can break the speed of light and need a really powerful reactor design to try it out (already put in a bug report on the physics breaking thruster but I really want to try it before it gets patched). Or rather this is a request for the highest wattage reactors available. Short answer: no. Long answer: Power density and power per radiator area don't really get better with size. You are asking for 44E9 gigawatts. I'll let you do some math and prototyping with the existing ones to try to understand just how staggeringly large your request is (for comparison: earth receives a total of 0.17 EW of solar radiation from the sun). I am fully aware of how the metric system works and what the E stands for, but thanks for the condescending tone.  This is a video game that you can edit things and build things that are 100% impossible or impractical to build in real life. That is partly why I enjoy the game. My request wasn't for a legit reactor outputting the EW it was for what everyone has as their largest possible outputs. I am planning to daisy chain stacks of 20 a few million times (by editing the save file most likely) until I have a daisy chain of reactors / radiators. It probably will crash the game when trying to load so if that doesn't work I'll just hack it into my game and edit the final output of reactors to try it out (this is more personal work for me than a bot that copy pastes pre-existing high capacity reactors). I wanted to try a semi-legit method before temporarily altering my game's function though. |
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Post by ross128 on Nov 23, 2016 21:47:56 GMT
Well, what he was trying to say in the first place is that 44EW is so ridiculously huge that you can't ever reach it even by stacking a few million reactors. The highest output reactors are around 10GW and you'd need 4.4 billion of those. The game isn't likely to let you place that many reactors, and even if a cap isn't coded in, I don't think your computer has enough memory to keep track of 4.4 billion nuclear reactors and their associated radiators.
So you can safely skip that step and go straight to modding in a zero-point reactor if you want that much energy.
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Post by jasonvance on Nov 23, 2016 21:53:46 GMT
There is no way the most output people have reached is ~10GW I threw this together in about 5 minutes (since reading your post). I was hoping someone had min-maxed to a reasonable level but I guess I'll just work on it myself. >.> imgur.com/a/R6TWy |
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Post by ross128 on Nov 23, 2016 22:00:44 GMT
Well, I will admit nobody has made a 38kt reactor before. Considering most of our ships are in the 1kt-5kt range, we never had any reason to. That said, congratulations, you'll only need 2.2 billion of those. And the reactors alone will weigh about 76 trillion tons. There's some 12GW and maybe a 15GW floating around somewhere in the thread that weighs a good deal less than that. Nothing that will get you anywhere close to the EW-range without crashing your computer though. |
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Post by thorneel on Nov 23, 2016 22:18:32 GMT
Given how crafts tend to crash the game when flirting with the kilometre cube range, I would say this is way out of the simulation's capabilities.
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Post by apophys on Nov 23, 2016 22:24:31 GMT
Did you guys not notice the efficient 25.1 GW reactor I posted ON THIS VERY PAGE (and reposted in the standards thread)? xD Also, a very old post in the thread that pushed the limits on power with no regard to mass (could possibly be better with lower temperature): How about 37.6 GW?  The limiter is turbopump energy consumption. If you spin them faster to cool more, they eat more power than the cooling helps with. |
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Post by ross128 on Nov 23, 2016 22:30:42 GMT
Well the nice thing about numbers that are double-digit powers of ten is that unless I'm off by more than two or three orders of magnitude, my point still stands. |
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Post by apophys on Nov 23, 2016 22:36:50 GMT
Of course the EW powers are unattainable, but it's pretty funny to say that the biggest reactors are ~10GW when there's a 25GW one exactly 5 posts above. xD
And then someone else making one ~150 times the weight with less power just to show that it's possible to go over 10GW. xD
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