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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 19:48:45 GMT
I like our Moderator just fine.
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Post by David367th on Feb 14, 2017 19:51:22 GMT
Well you do now at least, you were pretty adamant and open about his inadequacy just this morning.
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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 20:12:54 GMT
What I wrote was completely misunderstood, that's why I deleted it. I am glad we have a moderator. I was the one who requested a code of conduct and a moderator in the first place, isn't that true? I even started this thread in hopes it would happen. I can't believe Qswitched enacted things so fast. I wish there would have been more debate about the CoC and who exactly should be Moderator like a vote or something, but overall I'm happy. As far as deleted comments, when I say something I regret, I apologize to that person, and I delete the comment. Everyone should. I will always own up to whatever I say or write, but if I regret it, there is no point to embarrassing the person I was speaking to further by leaving the comment up so others can come along and pile on, or reignite the whole thing. Best to work things out and let the whole matter fade from memory and that's what I try to do. Enderminion, I want to say to you I'm sorry for anything I've done to upset you or rub you the wrong way. That was never my intention. David367th , I'm also sorry for anything I've done to upset you or rub you the wrong way. I really want to get back to playing and talking about COADE. Please respect my apology and my wishes to end this unnecessary conflict. Please let me know anything I can do to make things right between us. Also I apologize to anyone out there I ever hurt or insulted. This was not my intention. Please send any personal messages/ off topic comments to me via personal message. Please confine your public comments here to the topic of a Code of Conduct, or something closely related. Thank you.
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Post by Enderminion on Feb 14, 2017 20:32:31 GMT
What I wrote was completely misunderstood, that's why I deleted it. I am glad we have a moderator. I was the one who requested a code of conduct and a moderator in the first place, isn't that true? I even started this thread in hopes it would happen. I can't believe Qswitched enacted things so fast. I wish there would have been more debate about the CoC and who exactly should be Moderator like a vote or something, but overall I'm happy. As far as deleted comments, when I say something I regret, I apologize to that person, and I delete the comment. Everyone should. I will always own up to whatever I say or write, but if I regret it, there is no point to embarrassing the person I was speaking to further by leaving the comment up so others can come along and pile on, or reignite the whole thing. Best to work things out and let the whole matter fade from memory and that's what I try to do. Enderminion , I want to say to you I'm sorry for anything I've done to upset you or rub you the wrong way. That was never my intention. David367th , I'm also sorry for anything I've done to upset you or rub you the wrong way. I really want to get back to playing and talking about COADE. Please respect my apology and my wishes to end this unnecessary conflict. Please let me know anything I can do to make things right between us. Also I apologize to anyone out there I ever hurt or insulted. This was not my intention. Please send any personal messages/ off topic comments to me via personal message. Please confine your public comments here to the topic of a Code of Conduct, or something closely related. Thank you. Don't delete things, stand up for what you say and Own your mistakes
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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 20:44:31 GMT
Please send messages like this to me personally. But it does have to do with personal conduct in general. So I will share my philosophy of repentance which is very old, not made up by me without getting religious too much here it is. It's not about trying to run away from mistakes. It's about real repentance. If you do something wrong intentionally or unintentionally, you MUST do everything you can to erase every part of the action or words that caused that wrong. For instance let's say you sprayed a "tag" on your neighbor's garage. You MUST clean it off, and remove the paint of your tag, or even repaint that garage if necessary. The point would not to be to cover up the action. Lying about what you did would be just as hurtful as the first action. The point would be to completely remove the hurt and the action that caused the hurt as much as possible. Step one would be erasing or stopping the initial action. Step two would be trying to reach out to the person, apologize to them, and really try to act differently in the future. Step three would be trying to get another person to reach out to the person and intercede for you. Step four would be respecting that the person will not forgive, but still being open to reconciliation at any time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If I write something publically and it's misunderstood, or maybe it wasn't even responded to, then why leave it up? The point of writing a comment is to communicate something to another member not to hurt them. The comment is supposed to have a certain effect in the mind of another person to communicate an idea, not to hurt them personally. If that effect does not happen, if the comment is misunderstood and it's clear that comment is or can be hurtful to another person, then I must do everything I can to limit that hurt. I never intend to hurt anyone. I never intend to insult anyone. But you never know how your words will be received. So if I hurt someone, or I think I will hurt someone, all I must erase that hurt as much as I can in every way I can. I have my opinion, as do you, but I am not out to attack or hurt anyone just to share my view of things, THINGS not people. I've never intentionally insulted anyone either here or in my real life. I never use insults. I never use profanity. I never attack others. That is what I believe in, but I'm only human, sometimes my words are misunderstood. So against Enderminion , I'm sorry for anything I've ever said to hurt your feelings, and I hope you will accept my apology. I'm sorry for anything I've done to hurt anyone else on the board, I hope you will accept my apology. And I wish you the best in your life and on this board. Please refer all other personally messages to me personally.
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Post by Enderminion on Feb 14, 2017 20:49:29 GMT
I disagree. If I write something publically and it's misunderstood, or maybe it wasn't even responded to, then why leave it up? The point of writing a comment is to communicate something to another member. The comment is supposed to have a certain effect in the mind of another person. If that effect does not happen, if the comment is misunderstood and it's clear that comment is or can be hurtful to another person, then I must do everything I can to limit that hurt. I never intend to hurt anyone. I never intend to insult anyone. But you never know how your words will be received. So if I hurt someone, or I think I will hurt someone, all I can do is apologize. Let them know I'm sorry, and erase those words however I can. I never intended to hurt anyone, and I still am very pained anytime I hurt someone's feelings. I have my opinion, as do you, but I am not out to attack or hurt anyone just to share my view of things, THINGS not people. It's not my place to share my opinion or view of anyone, and sometimes it's easy to cross the line. But I've never intentionally insulted anyone either here or in my real life. I never use insults. I never use profanity. I never attack others. That is what I believe in. So against Enderminion , I'm sorry for anything I've ever said to hurt your feelings, and I hope you will accept my apology. And I wish you the best in your life and on this board. Nothing on the internet is deleted, I could repost it if i really wanted to, I don't, edit it explaining what you ment
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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 20:56:37 GMT
Why do you keep quoting me? Just say what you have to say.
I've apologized to you twice now, why are you still pushing the issue? Let it go my friend.
If you have something to say, please say it.
Please stop quoting me over and over, I know what I wrote.
Quoting me also removes the opportunity to clarify my comment or fine tune it.
Quoting me locks me in stone with no chance to make my comment more effective for those who come along to read it later.
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Post by David367th on Feb 14, 2017 21:00:31 GMT
Why do you keep quoting me? Just say what you have to say. I've apologized to you twice now, why are you still pushing the issue? Let it go my friend. If you have something to say, please say it. Please stop quoting me over and over, I know what I wrote. Quoting me also removes the opportunity to clarify my comment or fine tune it. Quoting me locks me in stone with no chance to make my comment more effective for those who come along to read it later. Because it is etiquette to quote the person you're directing your comment towards. Though you are still welcome to edit what you've said after someone quotes it, there is a time on the quote and anyone who goes back to read what you said previously can see edits you've made. Also it deters deletion.
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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 21:01:25 GMT
I'm done with this guys.
If you want to talk about COADE/ Code of Conduct let's talk. Otherwise I'm done.
When someone apologizes you are supposed to drop the issue not pile on.
I'm sorry. Now let's move the convo back to COADE and a Code of Conduct.
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Post by omnipotentvoid on Feb 14, 2017 21:04:54 GMT
So if I hurt someone, or I think I will hurt someone, all I can do is apologize. Let them know I'm sorry, and erase those words however I can. What has been said cannot ever be truly erased. So don't even try. Rather try, through communication, to right the wrongs or clear up misunderstandings. Deleting posts that you find aren't received as you intended or that you are not proud of having made is akin to running away. It would reflect much better on your person to leave the posts there and solve the problems by talking.
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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 21:21:35 GMT
What do Moderators do when a thread has turned toxic? Typically if the thread has little useful content, the whole thing gets deleted. Doesn't it make sense to save the Moderator work and just delete your own comments that are obviously misunderstood and are after all OFF TOPIC anyway? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's around 3 in the afternoon on a Tuesday. COADEguy1 works from home, but spends a lot of time playing around in the internet. "Doesn't everyone do that?", he thinks. "As long as I get my work done."
COADEguy1 pulls up his Children of a Dead Earth Board link. COADEguy1, writes a post in a thread, typing, "I don't think that design will work.", and hits "send".
He looks left to his rewatch of all the Enterprise episodes he is playing on his other monitor. "Season 1 episode 12", he thinks. "Maybe I should skip ahead to season 4?" "On reddit tons of people say that's the best season." "Was Enterprise really that bad to only last 4 seasons before getting canceled?"
He puts another bag of microwave popcorn in the bowl. "Yum microwave movie theater butter popcorn", he thinks. "It's my favorite snack!" He sits down at the computer and starts to snack away.
COADEguy1 gets back on the COADE Board, and then sees he has a notification. "A reply!", he thinks. COADEguy1 opens the window. "Oh no!", COADEguy1 thinks as he reads the reply.
NewTypeOfOdor replied saying, "You're just a poopy head, I'd like to see your design you fraking loser!"
Now COADEguy1 had just got done watching all the old episodes of NuBattleStar Galactica and thought to tell a joke about the use of the word "frak", but then remembered that humor and Scifi don't usually go well together.
"Everyone remembers GalaxyQuest and StarHyke", he thought. "Well maybe they weren't that bad." "StarHyke DID have Ivonka, my favorite on Babylon 5."
COADEguy1 sighs.
"I was not even talking about NewTypeOfOdor's design!", COADEguy1 thinks. "And gosh I just joined the darn board and already ruffled feathers."
COADEguy1 mulls over his choices. "Should I go rewatch Star Trek, and try to decide if it really ruined the franchise or not?" "Or should I go eat more popcorn first?"
"Wait the Board, I was thinking about the Board." "Right." "Okay COADEguy1", he thinks to himself. Because doens't everyone address themselves using their online tags when they think to themselves?
"COADEguy1", he thinks to himself. "I can Apologize to NewTypeOfOdor, say I didn't mean it the way it came out, and delete my comment." "That should do it." "Surely he'll accept my apology and let it go."
Maybe I'll ignore any replys but not delete my first comment." "I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to hide anything." "But I don't think that will work." "Most likely some friend of NewTypeOfOdor will come along, pile on and make things even worse." "I can try to clarify what I meant, but most likely even more misunderstandings will result." "Every reply I makes will only make things worse." "Plus by then they will be itching for a fight."
"I could sit there and try to duke it out." "But I'd rather watch another episode of Gundam 0079." "I wish I could find an episode that is dubbed though, I can't understand any Japanese." "And I never liked subtitles, I like to watch video in the background" "And I forgot most of the Japanese I learned from High School."
COADEguy thought about it. Then he remembered it was Valentime's day. Oh crap he thought. I better call my girlfriend.
Ring ring ring..... COADEguy1's Girlfriend whispering... "Hello?" COADEguy1 "Hey there it's me." COADEguy1's Girlfriend whispering... "Hey I'm in the office I can't talk long." COADEguy1 "Hey happy Valentine's Day!" COADEguy1's Girlfriend whispering... "Happy V day." COADEguy1 "Okay call me later. Bye." COADEguy1's Girlfriend whispering... "Bye."
A small "click" click is heard. "Gosh I can't believe I almost forgot" ,COADEguy1 thinks. "She's gonna be mad at me for not sending her flowers or something." "I'll find a way to make it up to her."
So COADEguy1 thought about it...
ANd......
Next time on Adventures of COADEguy1.
Will he send his girlfriend flowers!? Will she forgive him for almost forgetting Valentine's day!? Will he eat more popcorn!?
Find out, next time on Adventures of COADEguy1!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Enderminion on Feb 14, 2017 21:52:13 GMT
I think it should be in the code of conduct to not delete posts, this is what I'm trying to poke at deltav don't delete it takes away from the discussion
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Post by caiaphas on Feb 14, 2017 22:11:12 GMT
I think it should be in the code of conduct to not delete posts, this is what I'm trying to poke at deltav don't delete it takes away from the discussion I don't think that it's precisely necessary to put it in a formal Code of Conduct; it's impolite, yes, but I think it says enough (and generally it's immediately obvious) when someone starts doing that.
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Post by utilitas on Feb 14, 2017 23:03:52 GMT
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Post by deltav on Feb 14, 2017 23:17:56 GMT
I'm just so glad there is so much participation on this thread whether they agree with me or not. I love lively debate/ conversation. The worst thing is to start a thread that no one even looks at or comments on.
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