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redparadize
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Standardized Target Nov 19, 2016 4:06:30 GMT

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Post by redparadize on Nov 19, 2016 4:06:30 GMT

Hello Everyone!

I believe we need a standard target, something to be used as a common armor benchmark for all our guns and laser. So I am proposing for the space equivalent of NATO_targets.

I created a ship using Stock part. It is a simple ship, heavy enough to stay stable while being fired at. For now, we will start with a three Standard Target. We may upgrade the existing one or add new one in the future. I say "we" because I do not own or claim leadership over this. But I would like to keep the number of variant and upgrade low, otherwise it won't be standard anymore. So to do a upgrade or ad a variant, I would like if we reach a certain form of consensus.

Standard Target Triple Light MK1 ( or -ST-L1 )

armor angled at 63°

20cm of space

10cm Vanadium Chromium Steel
10cm of space
10cm Vanadium Chromium Steel
10cm of space
10cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

Standard Target Triple Medium MK1 ( or -ST-M1 )

armor angled at 63°

20cm of space

20cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

20cm of space

20cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

20cm of space

20cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

Standard Target Triple Heavy MK1 ( or -ST-H1 )

armor angled at 63°

20cm of space

40cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

40cm of space

40cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

40cm of space

40cm Vanadium Chromium Steel

User design Text:

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CraftBlueprint -ST-TL1
Modules
	35 Crew Module	1	0	null	0
	20.0 m Diameter 6.00 cm Radiation Shield	1	-0.25	null	0
	13.5 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor	1	-0.52344	null	0
	5x2 Silicon Nitride Radiator	4	1.9295	35 Crew Module	0
	30x10 Silicon Carbide Radiator	4	0	13.5 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor	0
	24.3 km/s 6.42 MW Helium Gimballed Magnetoplasmadynamic Thruster	1	0	null	0
	250 t Helium Tank	4	-0.0625	null	0
	10.0 m x 0 m Spacer	1	47.85	null	0
	20.0 m Diameter 6.00 cm Radiation Shield	1	23.425	null	0
	10.0 m x 0 m Spacer	1	48.85	null	0
Armor
	ArmorLayers
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.1	0.2	0	1	1
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.1	0.1	0	1	1
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.1	0.1	0	1	1

CraftBlueprint -ST-TM1
Modules
	35 Crew Module	1	0	null	0
	20.0 m Diameter 6.00 cm Radiation Shield	1	-0.25	null	0
	13.5 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor	1	-0.52344	null	0
	5x2 Silicon Nitride Radiator	4	1.9295	35 Crew Module	0
	30x10 Silicon Carbide Radiator	4	0	13.5 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor	0
	24.3 km/s 6.42 MW Helium Gimballed Magnetoplasmadynamic Thruster	1	0	null	0
	250 t Helium Tank	4	-0.0625	null	0
	10.0 m x 0 m Spacer	1	47.85	null	0
	20.0 m Diameter 6.00 cm Radiation Shield	1	23.425	null	0
	10.0 m x 0 m Spacer	1	48.85	null	0
Armor
	ArmorLayers
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.2	0.2	0	1	1
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.2	0.2	0	1	1
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.2	0.2	0	1	1

CraftBlueprint -ST-TH1
Modules
	35 Crew Module	1	0	null	0
	20.0 m Diameter 6.00 cm Radiation Shield	1	-0.25	null	0
	13.5 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor	1	-0.52344	null	0
	5x2 Silicon Nitride Radiator	4	1.9295	35 Crew Module	0
	30x10 Silicon Carbide Radiator	4	0	13.5 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor	0
	24.3 km/s 6.42 MW Helium Gimballed Magnetoplasmadynamic Thruster	1	0	null	0
	250 t Helium Tank	4	-0.0625	null	0
	10.0 m x 0 m Spacer	1	47.85	null	0
	20.0 m Diameter 6.00 cm Radiation Shield	1	23.425	null	0
	10.0 m x 0 m Spacer	1	48.85	null	0
Armor
	ArmorLayers
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.4	0.2	0	1	1
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.4	0.4	0	1	1
		Vanadium Chromium Steel	0.4	0.4	0	1	1

How to Install:
1-Find your userdesign.txt at C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\CDE and do a backup. By default the game do backup, but better be prudent.
2-Open the userdesign using the text editor of your choice. Add the STTH1 and STTM1. It can be added anywhere within the text.
Done!

How to Use:
1-Intercept at the lowest angle possible (perpendicular in under 1m should be enough) This will ensure that your firing angle is as close to 63° as possible.
2-(optional) Aim at the large radiator at the rear. This will allow you to test focused fire and grouping.
3- Once armor penetrated, a full flank of the the ship will turn orange. (Caused by punctuated tanks exploding, note that there is also a radiation shield on the way)

To share result of a firing test, I suggest that we use the following format. Its optional obviously it doesn't have to be that formal, but I think these are the information are essential:

Target type: STTM1
Focused: Y/N
Firing distance: 000km
Intercept speed: 0.00km/s
Penetrated in: 00s of exposition or number of shot.

Last Edit: Nov 19, 2016 4:52:20 GMT by redparadize

apophys
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Standardized Target Nov 19, 2016 4:42:54 GMT leerooooooy likes this

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Post by apophys on Nov 19, 2016 4:42:54 GMT

A standard target is great, but if too many people use it, we may create weapons that specifically counter the armor layout of that standard target, regardless of how viable such armor is in general. Just sharing a potential long-term concern.

At least one standard target should have a variant of a commonly used armor scheme.
Such as diamond, amorphous carbon, 1m space, boron, 1m+ graphite aerogel, boron.
Or the new amorphous carbon onion with 20cm or so silica aerogel innermost layer.

Maybe put on a laser pointer (small, ultra low power, 1 Mm range) for distance-ignoring shooting?

Last Edit: Nov 19, 2016 4:49:01 GMT by apophys

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redparadize
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Posts: 274

Standardized Target Nov 19, 2016 4:58:01 GMT

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Post by redparadize on Nov 19, 2016 4:58:01 GMT

We will end up upgrading it if its the case. Note that NATO still use the very same rolled steel even if we have way better now.

For the laser pointer, I did't want to add any custom module or any weakness to the ship. Nothing prevent you to have a custom ship escorting the standard target.