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Post by someusername6 on Nov 11, 2016 3:44:40 GMT
What if we took redparadize's 100Mc fleet challenge and scaled it way down, by a factor of 10^4? Woo miniaturization!
Design items to be launched from a ship -- missiles, drones, or payloads. Then design a carrier to launch them (with a carrier module, conventional gun, railgun or coilgun).
Rules:
* Conservation of energy must be preserved, if you are using coilguns or railguns. You can use physics-defying guns as long as you are supplying enough power to match the gun's output with 100% efficiency.
* Each item being launched has a cost budget of 10 kc / 100 kc / 1 Mc, and no mass limit. Specify which cost class you are participating in.
* Carrier has a cost budget of 25 Mc, and no mass limit. It should be crewed, and have no offensive capabilities other than launching the items being launched.
What is required to be posted:
* Each participant will post a picture of the object being launched
* Each participant will post pictures, descriptions, or user design fragments that are sufficient for anyone reading them to recreate their submission from scratch
No direct PvP, as in the initial thread; I'm more so interested in seeing the designs (and learning from them).
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Post by amimai on Nov 11, 2016 4:18:00 GMT
nooo if we have to conserve energy how can I post my uber drone with it coilgun missile launcher!
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Post by someusername6 on Nov 11, 2016 4:48:59 GMT
I (hope that) conservation of energy will eventually be patched, or that someone who knows more science than me can explain how actually the energy is coming from the magnetic metal glass or something.
But I don't want to build something that will be patched away and may have no equivalent.
Edit: Or, you know, put a 36 MW or so reactor on the carrier. There is one around the forums for 34.2 kc, it should amortize out.
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Post by wafflestoo on Nov 11, 2016 16:52:55 GMT
I'm in the same boat. All of my current drones are using a 12kw railgun that generates about 26kJ of muzzle energy with a fire-rate of "Oh god, why!" and a total energy output of several 'megawhats?!'
Still sounds like a fun challenge. If I can get some time to play that is :/
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Post by redparadize on Nov 11, 2016 19:21:51 GMT
What if we took redparadize's 100Mc fleet challenge and scaled it way down, by a factor of 10^4? Woo miniaturization! Design items to be launched from a ship -- missiles, drones, or payloads. Then design a carrier to launch them (with a carrier module, conventional gun, railgun or coilgun). Rules: * Conservation of energy must be preserved, if you are using coilguns or railguns. You can use physics-defying guns as long as you are supplying enough power to match the gun's output with 100% efficiency. * Each item being launched has a cost budget of 10 kc, and no mass limit.
* Carrier has a cost budget of 25 Mc, and no mass limit. It should be crewed, and have no offensive capabilities other than launching the items being launched.What is required to be posted: * Each participant will post a picture of the object being launched * Each participant will post pictures, descriptions, or user design fragments that are sufficient for anyone reading them to recreate their submission from scratch No direct PvP, as in the initial thread; I'm more so interested in seeing the designs (and learning from them). the 10kc rules for sub-platform is a serious limiting factor. It will be hard to have fighter style drone that launch missile. I am up for it but I would argue that it should be raised or removed. |
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Post by someusername6 on Nov 11, 2016 22:21:54 GMT
the 10kc rules for sub-platform is a serious limiting factor. It will be hard to have fighter style drone that launch missile. I am up for it but I would argue that it should be raised or removed. The reason why I put a cost limit is to see small drones / missiles -- if the budget limit were 1 Mc, I don't expect I'd see many designs that are "micro". But your point is fair. I'll edit the original post to add 3 size classes, at 10 kc, 100 kc, and 1 Mc. |
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Post by core2 on Nov 12, 2016 0:55:06 GMT
here is my entry in the 10 kc category.
It has 300 railgun drones, 200 anti-ship missiles and 2000 Swarmer anti-missile missiles.
Pretty much every module is custom made so i wont post all of them here. If someone is interested how some part is built I can post that part on request.
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Post by redparadize on Nov 12, 2016 5:22:22 GMT
Here is my carrier. I may post a alternate design that include my new pocket battleship drone, but for now I will stick with the drone 10kc requirement. Hydra I is a dual engine carrier. NTR and MPD are both running on Methane and capable of delivering 7.5km/s at high trust or 67km/s at low trust. Thunder I is a missile attack drone carrying 9 dwarf 2.66kt M each. Dart III is a fairly standard gun drone. Its gun fire 10g rounds at 2.6km/s and is quite accurate at 100km (out of range). Torsh I is a missile defence drone carrying 10 Flare missile and is used to cover attack wave. Total number of platform: Drone: 900 Dart III 900 Thunder I 100 Torsh I Missile: 8100 Dwarf 2.66kt 1000 (1.5MW15s) Flare missile (the 1.5MW flare missile are capable of covering the Hydra itself if main reactor and engine are turned off)  |
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Post by someusername6 on Nov 14, 2016 6:44:36 GMT
Here's a submission for the 100kc category. One single carrier, launching only one type of laser drone -- with a 48 MW violet laser, intensity of 20 MW/m^2 at 51 km. There are 128 of them. Intended operation is much like a laser frigate -- launch all the drones ahead of engagement, and watch everything burn. Placing the lasers on drones is somewhat less efficient than having just a single carrier, but it lets you split your forces as needed.   User design fragments for all ships and custom modules. NuclearThermalRocketModule 5.97 km/s Methane Gimballed Nuclear Thermal Rocket
UsesCustomName false
ReactorCoreHeight_m 0.7
NuclearReactor
Coolant Methane
Moderator Graphite
ModeratorMass_kg 0
Fuel U-235 Dioxide
FuelMass_kg 24
FuelEnrichment_Percent 0.89
ControlRodComposition U-233 Dioxide
ControlRodMass_kg 23
NeutronReflector Graphite
ReflectorThickness_m 0.594
AverageNeutronFlux__m2_s 1.4e+020
ThermalRocket
ChamberComposition Maraging Steel
ThroatRadius_m 0.45
ChamberWallThickness_m 0.0012
ChamberContractionRatio 1.1
NozzleExpansionRatio 70.1
NozzleExpansionAngle_degrees 15
RegenerativeCooling_Percent 1
Injector
Composition Maraging Steel
PumpRadius_m 0.37
RotationalSpeed_RPM 1000
Gimbal
InnerRadius_m 1.12
ArmorComposition Titanium Nitride
ArmorThickness_m 0.03
MomentumWheels
Composition Silicon Nitride
RotationalSpeed_RPM 10000
GimbalAngle_degrees 90
ThermoelectricFissionReactorModule 1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small
UsesCustomName true
ReactorCoreDimensions_m 0.033 0.05
NuclearReactor
Coolant Sodium
Moderator Graphite
ModeratorMass_kg 0.05
Fuel U-233 Dioxide
FuelMass_kg 0.47
FuelEnrichment_Percent 0.533
ControlRodComposition Depleted Uranium Dioxide
ControlRodMass_kg 0.108
NeutronReflector Depleted Uranium Dioxide
ReflectorThickness_m 0
AverageNeutronFlux__m2_s 7e+018
InnerTurbopump
Composition Boron Nitride
PumpRadius_m 0.078
RotationalSpeed_RPM 210
ThermocoupleInnerDimensions_m 0.14 0.22
Thermocouple
PTypeComposition Tungsten
NTypeComposition Tantalum
Length_m 0.001
ThermocoupleExitTemperature_K 2000
OuterCoolant Sodium
OuterTurbopump
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PumpRadius_m 0.055
RotationalSpeed_RPM 180
RadiationShieldModule 5.00 m Diameter 4.00 mm Radiation Shield
UsesCustomName false
Composition Lithium-6
Dimensions_m 2.5 0.004
CrewModule 40 Crew Module 2
UsesCustomName false
CrewCapacity 40
Decks 14
StructureMaterial Reinforced Carbon-Carbon
ShellThickness_m 0.03
RadiatorModule 2x7 Amorphous Carbon Radiator
UsesCustomName false
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PanelWidth_m 1
Height_m 7
Thickness_m 0.06
ArmorThickness_m 0.03
Panels 2
SurfaceFinish Molybdenum
NuclearThermalRocketModule 5.11 km/s Decane Gimballed Nuclear Thermal Rocket
UsesCustomName false
ReactorCoreHeight_m 0.083
NuclearReactor
Coolant Decane
Moderator Graphite
ModeratorMass_kg 0
Fuel U-233 Dioxide
FuelMass_kg 2
FuelEnrichment_Percent 0.55
ControlRodComposition Boron Nitride
ControlRodMass_kg 2
NeutronReflector Pyrolytic Carbon
ReflectorThickness_m 0
AverageNeutronFlux__m2_s 2.3e+020
ThermalRocket
ChamberComposition Boron
ThroatRadius_m 0.063
ChamberWallThickness_m 0.00022
ChamberContractionRatio 1.1
NozzleExpansionRatio 9.6
NozzleExpansionAngle_degrees 17
RegenerativeCooling_Percent 1
Injector
Composition Boron
PumpRadius_m 0.083
RotationalSpeed_RPM 3900
Gimbal
InnerRadius_m 0.15
ArmorComposition Titanium Nitride
ArmorThickness_m 0.0001
MomentumWheels
Composition Boron
RotationalSpeed_RPM 1e+005
GimbalAngle_degrees 5
LaserModule 48.0 MW Titanium:Sapphire Violet Laser
UsesCustomName false
ArcLamp
GasComposition Xenon
EnvelopeComposition Borosilicate Glass
PowerSupplied_W 4.8e+007
Radius_m 0.01
CavityWallComposition Silver
CavityCoolantComposition Hydrogen
CavitySemimajorAxis_m 0.103
CavitySemiminorAxis_m 0.1
GainMedium Titanium:Sapphire
OpticalNodes 1300000
LasingRodRadius_m 0.012
Mirror
Composition Silver
OutputCoupler
Composition Diamond
CoolantTurbopump
Composition Boron
PumpRadius_m 0.15
RotationalSpeed_RPM 145
CoolantInletTemperature_K 63
FrequencyDoubler
NonlinearOptic
Composition Silver Gallium Selenide
OpticLength_m 0.1
OpticRadius_m 0.0048
ApertureRadius_m 0.282
FocusingMirror
Composition Aluminum
Turret
InnerRadius_m 0.6
ArmorComposition Silica Aerogel
ArmorThickness_m 0.02
MomentumWheels
Composition Polyethylene
RotationalSpeed_RPM 1800
EngagementRange_km 52
TargetsShips true
TargetsShots true
RadiatorModule 50x2 Boron Radiator
UsesCustomName false
Composition Boron
PanelWidth_m 2.5
Height_m 2
Thickness_m 0.001
ArmorThickness_m 0.001
Panels 20
SurfaceFinish Diamond
RadiatorModule 40x2 Amorphous Carbon Radiator
UsesCustomName false
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PanelWidth_m 2
Height_m 2
Thickness_m 0.001
ArmorThickness_m 0.001
Panels 20
SurfaceFinish Diamond
CraftBlueprint Laser Drone
Modules
5.11 km/s Decane Gimballed Nuclear Thermal Rocket 1 0 null 0
48.0 MW Titanium:Sapphire Violet Laser 1 16.904 null 0
Default Remote Control 1 3.9588 null 0
50x2 Boron Radiator 2 8.1486 48.0 MW Titanium:Sapphire Violet Laser 0
40x2 Amorphous Carbon Radiator 2 6.0779 1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 0
5.80 t Decane Tank 1 0 null 0
1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 12 16.739 null 0
1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 12 17.739 null 0
1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 12 18.739 null 0
1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 12 19.739 null 0
Armor
ArmorLayers
Silica Aerogel 0.02 0 0 1 1
CarrierModule 6.50 MW Laser Drone Launcher
UsesCustomName false
Payload Laser Drone
Launcher
Stator Iron
TrackLength_m 1
StatorDepth_m 0.0475
Forcer Copper
ForcerRadius_m 0.08
Coolant Water
PowerConsumption_W 6.5e+006
CoolantTurbopump
Composition Nickel Chromium Iron
PumpRadius_m 0.81
RotationalSpeed_RPM 61.5
CoolantInletTemperature_K 1270
ArmorMaterial Titanium
ArmorThickness_m 0.002
EngagementRange_km 0
TargetsShips false
TargetsShots false
RadiatorModule 2x0.5 Amorphous Carbon Radiator
UsesCustomName false
Composition Amorphous Carbon
PanelWidth_m 1
Height_m 0.5
Thickness_m 0.001
ArmorThickness_m 0.001
Panels 2
SurfaceFinish Osmium
AmmoModule 64x Laser Drone
UsesCustomName false
SuppliedModule 6.50 MW Laser Drone Launcher
AmmoBay
Capacity 64
Stacks 1
ArmorComposition Boron
ArmorThickness_m 0.005
CraftBlueprint Carrier Laser Drone
Modules
5.97 km/s Methane Gimballed Nuclear Thermal Rocket 1 0.11843 null 0
1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 7 -0.39271 null 0
2.50 kt Methane Tank 1 0.21457 null 0
5.00 m Diameter 4.00 mm Radiation Shield 1 44.495 null 0
40 Crew Module 2 2 53.219 null 0
10.0 m x 0 m Spacer 1 70.67 null 0
2x7 Amorphous Carbon Radiator 3 5.8195 1.02 MW Thermoelectric Fission Reactor Small 1.05
6.50 MW Laser Drone Launcher 2 104.18 null 0
2x0.5 Amorphous Carbon Radiator 3 10.4 6.50 MW Laser Drone Launcher 1.05
7.00 m Diameter 10.0 cm Radiation Shield 1 62.445 null 0
6x3 Aluminum Radiator 3 17.444 40 Crew Module 2 1.04
64x Laser Drone 1 48.857 null 0
64x Laser Drone 1 49.857 null 0
Armor
ArmorLayers
Graphite Aerogel 0.36 0 0 1 1
Silica Aerogel 0.01 0 0 1 1
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