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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 7:18:03 GMT
Dear, all armor manufacturers.
USF current armor plans are becoming obsolete against RFP new generation weapons. The USF Advanced Research Projects Agency (FARPA) is sending request to all armor manufacturers to develop new armor plans for USF with following requirements:
1. The armor must be withstand direct hit on a flat armor surface from a right angle from following attacks:
1.1 Laser: The armor must withstand standard 300MW Near IR laser from 50km distant or less for more than 5 seconds.
1.2 Nuke: The armor must withstand at least 3 direct hits from standard 2.45kt Pure Fission Nuke.
1.3 Flak: The armor must withstand at least 3 direct hits from standard flak missile. The intercept velocity of the missile must be higher than 2km/s during the test.
1.4 Heavy Cannon: The armor must withstand at least 3 direct hits from standard 120mm cannon. The intercept velocity of the shooter must be higher than 500m/s during the test.
1.5 Hyper Velocity Weapon: The armor must withstand at least 3 direct hits from standard 39MW 11mm Scatter Railgun. The intercept velocity of the shooter must be higher than 500m/s during the test.
The last armor layer must not be penetrated to qualify as withstood the attack.
2. FARPA requests armor plans to be designed based on 2 categories:
2.1 Armor plan which uses only current generation materials which are already being mass-produced. (Stock materials only)
2.2 Armor plan which uses next generation materials which are not yet in mass-production. (Modded materials allowed.)
3. The armor plan should be lightest, thinnest, and cheapest possible. With weight as highest priority, followed by thickness, and cost.
Please submit the test armor with report to FARPA Titan Research Station before J2260.0
PS.: The armor test specification may subject to changes.
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 7:24:10 GMT
Honestly though, I don't think stock weapons (USTA) can represent user designed weapons (RFP new gen weapons.), which is why I added "The armor test specification may subject to changes.".
But if it can defense against these weapons with flat surface, it might, just might, be effective against user designed weapons with sloped armor design.
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Post by bigbombr on Apr 26, 2017 8:30:41 GMT
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 9:00:13 GMT
Yeah, I already read that thread. Armor plan in that thread seems a bit too thick. I want to find minimal effective armor plan to update the stock ship armor. Might also use it as my side/rear armor. |
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Post by bigbombr on Apr 26, 2017 9:22:06 GMT
Graphene makes for excellent whipple shields and spall liners due to it's high strength and low weight. If you keep a pointy nose towards the enemy, a few mm of graphene will bounce several hypervelocity rounds. Si-airogel still seems the best nukeflash armour.
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Post by dragonkid11 on Apr 26, 2017 9:32:52 GMT
Well, I found an armor layer that can do those job listed pretty well.
Top-0.5 to 1.0 mm diamond
3 to 5 mm amorphous carbon
20 to 50 cm graphite gel
Bottom-3 to 5 mm boron
Thickness can be changed depending on how much protection you want.
As long as you slope the armor, if you make it take hit flat on, it will go through in no time at all.
If you slope it, the armor can last quite a while. Scatter railgun or sniper coilgun, it can take it.
I even managed to take a full 20 10kg flak payload missile salvo with minimum damage to the hull (The radiator is another story though...)
As for nuke, kinda forgot to test that in a while...But since it can tank laser like nothing, it probably can defend against nuke blast.
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 10:29:08 GMT
USF wants a flat unsloped armor though. Because their captains has a habit on turning broadside toward the enemy.
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Post by The Astronomer on Apr 26, 2017 10:30:54 GMT
USF wants a flat unsloped armor though. Because their captains has a habit on turning broadside toward the enemy. Thin armors are guaranteed to go down instantly if go broadside. |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Apr 26, 2017 12:51:28 GMT
USF wants a flat unsloped armor though. Because their captains has a habit on turning broadside toward the enemy. Same armor setting with 50 cm to 1 meter graphite gel should work well. Or double composition layers. Or fire the captains for wasting resources. |
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 13:50:57 GMT
Thinest possible doesn't neccessary thin. It could be a km thick and still be 'thinest possible'.
Also we cannot fire the captains. They are president's sons/daughters/grandchildren.
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Post by The Astronomer on Apr 26, 2017 13:58:59 GMT
Thinest possible doesn't neccessary thin though. It coul be a km thick and still be 'thinest possible'. Also we cannot fire the captains. They are president's sons/daughters/grandchildren. "Jefferson and Voitenko are children of the president? I suspect that USTA even have presidents, though." - Adm. 'Astrogator' Starmaker btw, my usual armors are more than 1 meter thick. |
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 14:19:00 GMT
My standard armor is only a few mm over a meter thick. It works when sloped. A direct hit on the flat side pierces it like it was paper though.
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Post by The Astronomer on Apr 26, 2017 14:35:39 GMT
My standard armor is only a few mm over a meter thick. It works when sloped. A direct hit on the flat side pierces it like it was paper though. *claps claps* Congrats, you won't be participating in the real arms race, where railguns fire sand faster than 50 km/s, coilguns launches drones and nukes, lasers kill everything AND Macross missile massacre is the regime. Sometimes people don't think armors are useful at all. Also, all hail Boron. PS: How do you go head-on without having all of your lasers killed in one second, and how would you dodge projectiles? |
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 26, 2017 16:02:32 GMT
My standard armor is only a few mm over a meter thick. It works when sloped. A direct hit on the flat side pierces it like it was paper though. *claps claps* Congrats, you won't be participating in the real arms race, where railguns fire sand faster than 50 km/s, coilguns launches drones and nukes, lasers kill everything AND Macross missile massacre is the regime. Sometimes people don't think armors are useful at all. Also, all hail Boron. PS: How do you go head-on without having all of your lasers killed in one second, and how would you dodge projectiles? Because it works sloped? You know, ship aren't supose to expose its big flat softy sides. turn that small pointy side towards that stream of projectiles. Though to be honest, my units are going against no super-weapons. Their enemies are ~28km/s flak railguns, 1 GW lasers, and 1MT nukes. These weapons are powerful enough to one-shot stock ships, but not "WTF was that" powerful. But yeah, my plans only work sloped, I have no armor plan which work non-sloped and still light and cheap enough to use on my "don't turn this toward the enemy" sides. As for lasers. A shut the high-power laser lens cap and counter enemy lasers with 10MW laser drones. |
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 26, 2017 17:52:21 GMT
Nuclear strikes are rough, 1.77Mt nukes at 7km caused major damage to a nuke proofed ship (fragment damage and armour pens)
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