blkcandy
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 10, 2017 19:01:53 GMT
I was having an headache with the radiators of the ship I am making. The ship has a wet mass of 826t and dry mass of 326t, a small war ship. It has thin armor overall, but it has 'umbrella shield' in front that protect its weaker parts including its fragile radiators. The crew and reactor radiators are protected just fine, the problem is the 90MW laser radiators. They are huge.  The shield cannot cover that, so I make them collapsible and collapse them in when fight in close range. This increase their chance of survival in combat. (The mounts are still busted from stray shots though.)  This make me realize the usefulness of collapsible radiators other than minimizing drone size (and make things look cool). The radiator can be shielded by collapsing like I did, or redundant radiators folded and have only minimal radiator deployed in combat to reduce the chance of they getting shot. I'm not sure how the calculation in the game works, but maybe we can have redundant radiator in a ring without suffering from interreflection by folding those redundants  ^^^ Like that, that is a ridiculous amount of redundant radiators. Minimal ship length usage. I am not going to use that though. Too much 'micro-management'. Another use of folding radiator I can think of is dodging missiles. Low power decoy can even be used by multi-GW class ship to dodge missile fleet by folding all radiators after launching the decoy. Doing so in engagement is impractical though. |
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Post by Aron0621 on Apr 10, 2017 23:09:06 GMT
I can see that working in real situation, tho. Not really much of a micro when you have your lives depending on these glowing panels...
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blkcandy
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 11, 2017 2:02:09 GMT
It is not so micro when you have fifty-something crews on board and years long mission.
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Post by subunit on Apr 11, 2017 2:06:58 GMT
Your laser rads are running pretty cool- they could probably be smaller if your coolant outlet temp was higher. That said, redundant rads are a good idea for sure, and keeping a backup set retracted that you can extend when the main set gets ripped off might be viable if the mass penalty isn't too high.
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 11, 2017 2:33:45 GMT
They run at 1225K. They were dark because it wasn't firing at anything in both pictures. Those radiators glow nicely when it start burning things.
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Post by subunit on Apr 11, 2017 2:35:55 GMT
They run at 1225K. They were dark because it wasn't firing at anything in both pictures. Those radiators glow nicely when it start burning things. Ah right, didn't look closely enough @ the pic! |
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Post by Durandal on Apr 11, 2017 4:06:22 GMT
Will the designer actually let us build and fly a design with interreflecting radiators?
If multiple identical sets of radiators were named seperatly, such as Las Rad A, Las Rad B, ect, it wouldn't be such a micromanaging challenge to retract redundant numbers of rads.
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blkcandy
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Post by blkcandy on Apr 11, 2017 5:17:55 GMT
Will the designer actually let us build and fly a design with interreflecting radiators? If multiple identical sets of radiators were named seperatly, such as Las Rad A, Las Rad B, ect, it wouldn't be such a micromanaging challenge to retract redundant numbers of rads.   Yes. It does let us builld the ship. You can't rename the radiator in the same ring though. You cannot intersect two radiator module set in the same area. |
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Post by subunit on Apr 11, 2017 5:34:49 GMT
Interreflection of separate sets of validly placed rads should probably be a warning with reduced efficiency rather than a full-stop error.
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Post by AnonymousCoward on Apr 22, 2017 0:28:14 GMT
Interreflection of separate sets of validly placed rads should probably be a warning with reduced efficiency rather than a full-stop error. Maybe calculating the inter-reflection efficiency loss is impractical? Just a guess at why it does what it currently does. |
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Post by alias72 on Apr 22, 2017 0:46:44 GMT
It would also be nice if collapsed radiators can fold into an armored housing, and having some form of heat sink so that you could collapse the radiators for a gun pass and then open them to reject heat.
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 22, 2017 3:28:37 GMT
which is great except for the gun drones that have been shielded by my ship have now matched you're orbit and are closing into gun range asap after the attack run.
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Post by subunit on Apr 22, 2017 5:16:52 GMT
Interreflection of separate sets of validly placed rads should probably be a warning with reduced efficiency rather than a full-stop error. Maybe calculating the inter-reflection efficiency loss is impractical? Just a guess at why it does what it currently does. Could be, but the OP is gesturing at using the same rad type with the same fore/aft coordinates on the hull, so it shouldn't be a problem in that case- maybe if there were a function to divide a larger single set of rads into some number of "control groups" this would be easier. |
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 22, 2017 11:07:41 GMT
the interreflection thing way have something to do with thermodynamics and hot flowing to cold, the hot radiator sufferes less then the cold radiator
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