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Post by tophattingson on Mar 26, 2017 22:10:10 GMT
The base game runs on a combination of contemporary materials and magic (hot fluorine rockets?). I got curious about how the game would play if you limited tech to a different year, even if it doesn't make sense to launch spacecraft at that date, like limiting equipment to what would have been available during WWII. This list is incomplete.
Materials that aren't available as depicted in-game in 2017:
Boron - While Amorphous Boron has amazing properties, similar to Carbon Nanotubes, it cannot presently be produced at the scale they are typically used in game.
Modules by earliest possible date:
~1200 - Conventional Gun 1904 - Coilgun 1926 - Liquid Combustion Rocket 1945 - Pure Fission Nuke 1951 - Thermoelectric Fission Reactor (Power-producing Prototype) 1953? - Boosted Fission Nuke 1953 - Thermoelectric Fission Reactor (Naval Prototype) 1954 - Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator 1955 - Thermoelectric Fission Reactor (First Nuclear Submarine) 1959 - Nuclear Thermal Rocket 1960 - Laser 1962? - Railgun 1963? - Magnetoplasmadynamic Rocket 1965? - Resistojet Rocket
Materials by earliest possible date:
1817 - Cadmium 1828 - Beryllium 1847 - Nitroglycerin 1862 - Nitrocellulose 1863 - TNT 1888 - Aluminium (In large quantities) 1898 - Polyethylene 1898 - Cyclonite 1931 - Aerogel ~1960 - Aramid Fiber
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Post by Durandal on Mar 27, 2017 4:43:53 GMT
I've always thought a "cold war SDI challenge" would be fun.
Biggest limiting factor is that you can't have small crewed <6 month ships and you can't use the shuttle orbiter as a basis for a hull.
Materials and modules would be limited to what might have been feasible in the 80's, so no fancy armor or laser stars.
Imagine little fleets of armed Soyuz engaging with shuttles. Unarmored micro missiles spewing everywhere.
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Post by ndeo on Mar 27, 2017 8:52:34 GMT
I've always thought a "cold war SDI challenge" would be fun. Biggest limiting factor is that you can't have small crewed <6 month ships and you can't use the shuttle orbiter as a basis for a hull. Materials and modules would be limited to what might have been feasible in the 80's, so no fancy armor or laser stars. Imagine little fleets of armed Soyuz engaging with shuttles. Unarmored micro missiles spewing everywhere. What about that Soviet Polyus spacecraft with its 1 Megawatt CO2 laser?
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 27, 2017 9:45:16 GMT
I've always thought a "cold war SDI challenge" would be fun. Biggest limiting factor is that you can't have small crewed <6 month ships and you can't use the shuttle orbiter as a basis for a hull. Materials and modules would be limited to what might have been feasible in the 80's, so no fancy armor or laser stars. Imagine little fleets of armed Soyuz engaging with shuttles. Unarmored micro missiles spewing everywhere. I don't think it will happen. The enemy will shot your spaceship down with missiles before you get close to them as you are fighting at LEO...
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 27, 2017 11:29:44 GMT
yeah, I made a (nearly) SSTO nuclear missile, by accident
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Post by samchiu2000 on Mar 27, 2017 11:47:31 GMT
What about crew module? Personally i think it start to exist in 1961 when USSR send Gagarin to space.
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Post by The Astronomer on Mar 27, 2017 12:00:07 GMT
What about crew module? Personally i think it start to exist in 1961 when USSR send Gagarin to space. Too bad we can't just make a 1200s space war
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Post by tophattingson on Mar 31, 2017 20:34:38 GMT
WWI dreadnoughts in space.
Space Pirates with wooden ships, would require modding a little.
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Post by subunit on Mar 31, 2017 20:48:34 GMT
I've always thought a "cold war SDI challenge" would be fun. Biggest limiting factor is that you can't have small crewed <6 month ships and you can't use the shuttle orbiter as a basis for a hull. Materials and modules would be limited to what might have been feasible in the 80's, so no fancy armor or laser stars. Imagine little fleets of armed Soyuz engaging with shuttles. Unarmored micro missiles spewing everywhere. A cold war mod for CoaDE would be amazing. To be credible you'd probably need some kind of atmospheric modelling and surface launches, but maybe those could be airbrushed out if it was presented as a kind of Secret War happening in medium orbits or around the moon to prevent the whole thing from going nuclear on Earth itself.
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Post by subunit on Apr 1, 2017 1:37:24 GMT
So, after a little googling, I found a site (http://metallicheckiy-portal.ru/marki_metallov/alu/) with the compositions of the aluminum alloys the Sovs used in spacecraft construction. Soyuz apparently used AMr-6. Does anyone know if there are drawings or specs of old spacecraft floating around that would give things like capsule thicknesses? I guess you could estimate it by subtracting the ~ mass of equipment from reported capsule masses.
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 1, 2017 2:54:57 GMT
remember that those buckets had to survive reentry as well subunit
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Post by subunit on Apr 1, 2017 7:49:22 GMT
remember that those buckets had to survive reentry as well subunit Yep- I want to model a Soyuz as built.
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