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Post by newageofpower on Dec 21, 2016 5:21:23 GMT
Until Titan got announced to be a wonder of nature in year 2200... What does that even mean
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Post by David367th on Dec 21, 2016 5:52:14 GMT
Did they terraform in 2200 or something?
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Post by cuddlefish on Dec 21, 2016 6:01:57 GMT
The capital cost for farming methane from rich deposits (For example... Titan) is multiple orders of magnitude less than trying to suck hydrogen out of a gas giant. Until Titan got announced to be a wonder of nature in year 2200... These guys used destructive geo-engineering as a weapon of war, on the planet that they were living on at the time. The odds of them holding to environmental protections in the face of economic and strategic utility is basically zero.
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Post by The Astronomer on Dec 21, 2016 8:37:32 GMT
Until Titan got announced to be a wonder of nature in year 2200... What does that even mean (I am not even sure if I am writing that correctly.) I feel like Titan should be preserved for some reason. Methane can also be found in cow farts, Kuiper belt objects, Uranus and Neptune, so I would like to ask about why would they bother this poor moon that gets too much attention? I know that someone will come and say 'because it is the easiest way to get methane' so I guess I have no point regarding this thing... Unless life is found on Titan.
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Post by The Astronomer on Dec 21, 2016 8:40:28 GMT
Until Titan got announced to be a wonder of nature in year 2200... These guys used destructive geo-engineering as a weapon of war, on the planet that they were living on at the time. The odds of them holding to environmental protections in the face of economic and strategic utility is basically zero. Well, I guess that the CoaDE solar system is probably pretty doomed one, especially that Titan is in the hands of those who destroyed Earth's biosphere. I am pretty sure that life on Titan, if they do exist, would have a really, really terrible life.
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Post by cuddlefish on Dec 21, 2016 11:28:19 GMT
These guys used destructive geo-engineering as a weapon of war, on the planet that they were living on at the time. The odds of them holding to environmental protections in the face of economic and strategic utility is basically zero. Well, I guess that the CoaDE solar system is probably pretty doomed one, especially that Titan is in the hands of those who destroyed Earth's biosphere. I am pretty sure that life on Titan, if they do exist, would have a really, really terrible life. Yeah, the people of this setting... well, they grab the idiot ball, and make their absolute best effort to squeeze it straight past "too dumb to live" and into the marvelous atomic explosion of "too dumb for anything in their area of influence to live".
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Post by The Astronomer on Dec 21, 2016 12:24:13 GMT
Well, I guess that the CoaDE solar system is probably pretty doomed one, especially that Titan is in the hands of those who destroyed Earth's biosphere. I am pretty sure that life on Titan, if they do exist, would have a really, really terrible life. Yeah, the people of this setting... well, they grab the idiot ball, and make their absolute best effort to squeeze it straight past "too dumb to live" and into the marvelous atomic explosion of "too dumb for anything in their area of influence to live". Just hope that Donald Trump will not blast albedo-decreasing powder into the atmosphere and such. Speaking of why I am opposed to Titan methane mining. To be honest, I am paranoid about almost everything possible, including Titanean life, and Titanean environment itself (I believed that Titan is also special, like Earth). If they were to find a life and just ignore it, I think there will be a preservation group that came and either collect as many lifeforms, or fight for control of the moon (AKA Battle for Titaneans' sake). In this setting, I would assume that the moon is completely devoid of life, and I am still opposed to the idea of taking methane from it. This paranoid is similar to how I feel about most potentially habitable objects in the universe.
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Post by shurugal on Dec 21, 2016 13:07:20 GMT
The capital cost for farming methane from rich deposits (For example... Titan) is multiple orders of magnitude less than trying to suck hydrogen out of a gas giant. but, I liked my dangling sucker sattelite idea
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Post by The Astronomer on Dec 21, 2016 15:46:55 GMT
The capital cost for farming methane from rich deposits (For example... Titan) is multiple orders of magnitude less than trying to suck hydrogen out of a gas giant. but, I liked my dangling sucker sattelite idea Also, 'vacuum dirigible' gas mining platforms over Uranus.
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Post by shurugal on Dec 21, 2016 22:31:21 GMT
but, I liked my dangling sucker sattelite idea Also, 'vacuum dirigible' gas mining platforms over Uranus. Welcome to Weyland Yutani, where we power starships by sucking the gas out of Uranus.
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Post by The Astronomer on Dec 21, 2016 23:11:32 GMT
Also, 'vacuum dirigible' gas mining platforms over Uranus. Welcome to Weyland Yutani, where we power starships by sucking the gas out of Uranus. People farts are used in some place to produce many useful gases such as hydrogen and methane in my novel, XD
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Post by David367th on Dec 22, 2016 0:11:17 GMT
Welcome to Weyland Yutani, where we power starships by sucking the gas out of Uranus. People farts are used in some place to produce many useful gases such as hydrogen and methane in my novel, XD I feel in a space faring race early in its life like the Children of a Dead Earth, reusing everything is almost a necessity. In the context of armor, I wonder how much steel plating you can make out of a body...
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Post by shurugal on Dec 22, 2016 1:54:15 GMT
People farts are used in some place to produce many useful gases such as hydrogen and methane in my novel, XD I feel in a space faring race early in its life like the Children of a Dead Earth, reusing everything is almost a necessity. In the context of armor, I wonder how much steel plating you can make out of a body... well, the human body has about 6g of iron in a 75 kg adult male, plenty of carbon to make that into steel of whatever grade you want. There is also about 13 kG of carbon in a human body. Most steels are about 0.5% carbon, so you could use a human to turn 2587kg of iron into 2600kg of steel.
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Post by argonbalt on Dec 22, 2016 2:02:04 GMT
More than enough to bond with some hydrogen and 3d print some self sealing stem bolts
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Post by jonen on Dec 22, 2016 11:02:55 GMT
Per Kg, human exhaust gasses is a better source of carbon than human tissue.
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