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Post by Apotheon on Sept 3, 2018 17:02:39 GMT
Hey, I just pasted a few of Apophys designs into my UserDesigns and immediately after, when starting the game it crashes after the splash screen with the orange spinning thing... I deleted Apophys stuff, but it still crashes... I've rebooted. What did I do wrong? Are you not supposed to interact with UserDesigns in order to get user designs into the game more automatically?
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Post by treptoplax on Sept 4, 2018 14:43:00 GMT
Hey, I just pasted a few of Apophys designs into my UserDesigns and immediately after, when starting the game it crashes after the splash screen with the orange spinning thing... I deleted Apophys stuff, but it still crashes... I've rebooted. What did I do wrong? Are you not supposed to interact with UserDesigns in order to get user designs into the game more automatically? It used to work that way, now you can just put additional files with components/ships in the Imports directory (don't recall exact path, but you should be able to find it). Probably something simple and hard to see is still wrong with your UserDesigns - stray characters or even whitespace (tabs?) somewhere. Save a copy of it off someplace safe and see if you can clean it up - I believe the game will keep a startup log somewhere that may give some idea of what it's choking on. Worse case you could probably clear it and start adding stuff back in chunks to see where it breaks.
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Post by Apotheon on Sept 6, 2018 13:42:16 GMT
All I did was open UserDesigns in Notepad, add a paragraph at the end and save it. After the crash, I opened it again, deleted the paragraph and saved it again, nothing more. It should be identical to how it was... maybe Notepad changed the encoding or something???
Edit: yeah, this is what I thought from the start. Encoding changed from UTF-8 to UTF-8-BOM for whatever reason and changing it back with Notepad++ fixed the problem. Thankfully, I'm computer literate.
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Sept 6, 2018 17:43:26 GMT
All I did was open UserDesigns in Notepad, add a paragraph at the end and save it. After the crash, I opened it again, deleted the paragraph and saved it again, nothing more. It should be identical to how it was... maybe Notepad changed the encoding or something???
Edit: yeah, this is what I thought from the start. Encoding changed from UTF-8 to UTF-8-BOM for whatever reason and changing it back with Notepad++ fixed the problem. Thankfully, I'm computer literate. Never open anything machine-readable with Notepad, it will cheerfully change the encoding, break line endings and perform other minor acts of evil.
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Post by Apotheon on Sept 7, 2018 16:48:57 GMT
All I did was open UserDesigns in Notepad, add a paragraph at the end and save it. After the crash, I opened it again, deleted the paragraph and saved it again, nothing more. It should be identical to how it was... maybe Notepad changed the encoding or something???
Edit: yeah, this is what I thought from the start. Encoding changed from UTF-8 to UTF-8-BOM for whatever reason and changing it back with Notepad++ fixed the problem. Thankfully, I'm computer literate. Never open anything machine-readable with Notepad, it will cheerfully change the encoding, break line endings and perform other minor acts of evil. Can you advise on how to correctly add stuff into the game? I cannot find this information.
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Sept 7, 2018 17:50:11 GMT
Never open anything machine-readable with Notepad, it will cheerfully change the encoding, break line endings and perform other minor acts of evil. Can you advise on how to correctly add stuff into the game? I cannot find this information. If you must edit files directly, use Notepad++ (Windows) or any of the many sane text editors available (Linux).
If you are adding stuff from Workshop, just subscribe. If you are adding stuff someone posted on the forum, put it in a text file (if you can't just download the attachment), and stick it in \Users\YourUsernameHere\AppData\Roaming\CDE\Mods\Data\Imports .
If you are adding stuff someone just copypasted into their post, without putting it in attachment or
code tags , just yell at them until they fix it because you don't want to go over all the whitespace and whatnot by hand.
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Post by apophys on Sept 21, 2018 23:45:43 GMT
Apotheon If you want me to see something, tag me. I don't often check this section of the forum. Yeah, never use Notepad. For anyone without Notepad++ (like me), use Wordpad instead (comes with any copy of Windows). In the most recent CoaDE patch, there's a bug that causes putting modules in \CDE\Mods\Data\Imports\ to not properly save ships made with those modules. You can instead place modules in \CDE\Mods\Data\Designs.txt (you will have to make this text file). (It works by modding the default game's Designs.txt, where the stock modules and ships are.) They will be correctly marked as mod-imported modules ingame, which putting them in \CDE\UserDesigns.txt would not accomplish.
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Post by newageofpower on Oct 7, 2018 16:09:11 GMT
apophys you don't have NPP?!? Did they piss you off or something?
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Oct 7, 2018 16:32:47 GMT
How do you... pretty much anything without NPP under Windows?
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Post by jtyotjotjipaefvj on Oct 7, 2018 19:33:24 GMT
How do you... pretty much anything without NPP under Windows? By using Visual Studio Code obviously
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Post by apophys on Oct 7, 2018 21:47:11 GMT
apophys you don't have NPP?!? Did they piss you off or something? Wordpad is good enough for my simple needs with *.txt or *.rtf files, so I haven't bothered to try others. I didn't even know about Notepad++ before I saw it mentioned on this forum. I use Open Office for any serious word processing (*.doc files).
(For programming code, I used Eclipse, but I don't have a regular need for that anymore.)
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Oct 8, 2018 7:30:03 GMT
How do you... pretty much anything without NPP under Windows? By using Visual Studio Code obviously You can start and exit NPP several times over by the time Visual Studio even notices that it should be launching. You can also barely do anything in VS without jumping through the hoops of creating project, assigning files, etc.
For quickly editing files and some quick coding/scripting (under Windows) it's hard to do better than NPP.
AFAIK (I haven't used Wordpad for I don't know how long) Wordpad doesn't have some useful capabilities (like regexes or hex converter) and is only really meant for handling RTFs.
As for the actual coding I'm not a fan of VS (I did like the recursive peek declaration/definition window, though - a godsend when working with some ridiculously convoluted legacy spaghetti), though of course IDEs written in Java (like Eclipse) tend to be hilariously slow at times.
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Post by anotherfirefox on Oct 11, 2018 11:16:53 GMT
By using Visual Studio Code obviously You can start and exit NPP several times over by the time Visual Studio even notices that it should be launching. You can also barely do anything in VS without jumping through the hoops of creating project, assigning files, etc.
For quickly editing files and some quick coding/scripting (under Windows) it's hard to do better than NPP.
AFAIK (I haven't used Wordpad for I don't know how long) Wordpad doesn't have some useful capabilities (like regexes or hex converter) and is only really meant for handling RTFs.
As for the actual coding I'm not a fan of VS (I did like the recursive peek declaration/definition window, though - a godsend when working with some ridiculously convoluted legacy spaghetti), though of course IDEs written in Java (like Eclipse) tend to be hilariously slow at times.
I guess you confused VS Code with VS? Those two are different and VS Code is magic.
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Oct 11, 2018 15:37:31 GMT
You can start and exit NPP several times over by the time Visual Studio even notices that it should be launching. You can also barely do anything in VS without jumping through the hoops of creating project, assigning files, etc.
For quickly editing files and some quick coding/scripting (under Windows) it's hard to do better than NPP.
AFAIK (I haven't used Wordpad for I don't know how long) Wordpad doesn't have some useful capabilities (like regexes or hex converter) and is only really meant for handling RTFs.
As for the actual coding I'm not a fan of VS (I did like the recursive peek declaration/definition window, though - a godsend when working with some ridiculously convoluted legacy spaghetti), though of course IDEs written in Java (like Eclipse) tend to be hilariously slow at times.
I guess you confused VS Code with VS? Those two are different and VS Code is magic. I haven't even heard of VS Code, but I have used VS.
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Post by anotherfirefox on Oct 13, 2018 9:30:36 GMT
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