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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 14:50:11 GMT
1) Yes, you are right. I forget the maths on it right now. I haven't slept all night due to my syrinx but there is an equation for working out the easiest tracking range and you're quite right. It's actually in the middle distance. 2) I was planning on using a derivative of the dual active/two way data-link/frequency hopping arrangements on the PAAMS/CAMM/ASTER complex the Royal Navy is using. Instead of pointing a missile at your target and turning on it's seeker, you use your own (Bigger, more powerful) onboard sensors to track the target. Then, rather than designating the target a la semi-active radar homing, you soft launch your missiles and tell them to go to a piece of sky and then turn on their own sensors. Instead of using a dedicated fire control channel to guide each missile then, you can cycle through missiles with almost continuous updates on what their targets are doing and what you what them to do. Once you get to the mathematically predictable point where the missile's own smaller (but closer) sensors actually outperform your onboard sensors you simply have them turn on their own multi-spectral sensors which completes the intercept. Meanwhile, if the target manages to spoof of decoy any of the missiles you can use your own sensors and datalinks to re-cue them. In the case of an overshoot you can similarly re-cue your missiles as long as they still have Dv 2. I was to name this system, but then I thought about the fact that this would either limit the missile total range or add need to have big transceiverd or special transceivers for Lidar. Maybe use the drone itself as the platform for the bigger sensors, the enemy might think that the drones is now just space debris. But that is just an if. Replacing one of six KSOWs with multi spectrum might be the better alternative. Maybe even give the fake-ksow an bigger transceiver for a better datalink to the main ship Yes. That is actually what the Russians do on their Oniks missile. I thought about this but it has a couple of drawbacks in this context. 1) No horizon means plenty of time to prioritize targets. My fake KSOW will have a distinct EM signature. It will therefore be possible for the target to potentially knock out my entire attack by knocking out just 180ish out of 4000 targets. The rest will then be easily subjected to softkill. 2) The Russians use this approach because their command of imager and image processor miniaturization lags behind the west. Comparable Western missiles usually have mm wave imaging radar at the very least. 3)Multi spectrum imagers and datalinks are already small and are getting smaller. Look at CAMM for example. 99kg. Includes a two way datalinks and dual active radar homing system. I'm walking right now. I am posting again momentarily. |
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Post by Kerr on Aug 28, 2017 15:01:04 GMT
2. I was to name this system, but then I thought about the fact that this would either limit the missile total range or add need to have big transceiverd or special transceivers for Lidar. Maybe use the drone itself as the platform for the bigger sensors, the enemy might think that the drones is now just space debris. But that is just an if. Replacing one of six KSOWs with multi spectrum might be the better alternative. Maybe even give the fake-ksow an bigger transceiver for a better datalink to the main ship Yes. That is actually what the Russians do on their Oniks missile. I thought about this but it has a couple of drawbacks in this context. 1) No horizon means plenty of time to prioritize targets. My fake KSOW will have a distinct EM signature. It will therefore be possible for the target to potentially knock out my entire attack by knocking out just 180ish out of 4000 targets. The rest will then be easily subjected to softkill. 2) The Russians use this approach because their command of imager and image processor miniaturization lags behind the west. Comparable Western missiles usually have mm wave imaging radar at the very least. 3)Multi spectrum imagers and datalinks are already small and are getting smaller. Look at CAMM for example. 99kg. Includes a two way datalinks and dual active radar homing system. I'm walking right now. I am posting again momentarily. Hm... if the fake KSOW uses Lidar it's signature can only be seen by objects that are directly aimed at by the lidar laser. Instead of using other ways of communication thar are omnidirectional. |
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Post by Enderminion on Aug 28, 2017 15:08:04 GMT
I am having some difficulty getting their principle opposition to work properly as CDE doesn't seem to be able to cope with aiming internally mounted weapons. I'll post up when I sort it out. if you disable doge prediction on the cap ships with interal fixed weapons you might be able to get them to aim better |
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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 15:09:28 GMT
Yes. That is actually what the Russians do on their Oniks missile. I thought about this but it has a couple of drawbacks in this context. 1) No horizon means plenty of time to prioritize targets. My fake KSOW will have a distinct EM signature. It will therefore be possible for the target to potentially knock out my entire attack by knocking out just 180ish out of 4000 targets. The rest will then be easily subjected to softkill. 2) The Russians use this approach because their command of imager and image processor miniaturization lags behind the west. Comparable Western missiles usually have mm wave imaging radar at the very least. 3)Multi spectrum imagers and datalinks are already small and are getting smaller. Look at CAMM for example. 99kg. Includes a two way datalinks and dual active radar homing system. I'm walking right now. I am posting again momentarily. Hm... if the fake KSOW uses Lidar it's signature can only be seen by objects that are directly aimed at by the lidar laser. Instead of using other ways of communication thar are omnidirectional. Yeah, but in the Oniks example above you have a horizon to hide behind and therefore limit your opponent's opportunity to get a good look at you across the EM spectrum. If you're coming at me across hard-vac I've got all the time I need. If you're pinging me with active sensors, I can detect them. If you're relying on pure passive sensors there's no point in using a dedicated missile. The sensors we'd need are already small enough at the resolution we need to fit on the KSOW. In any case, this gets to the crux of the matter. For my lore I am basically presuming a continuation on current trends in sensor miniaturisation. Using a dedicated sensor platform does me no favours because there's nothing for me to displace to make room for it. |
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Post by Kerr on Aug 28, 2017 15:18:51 GMT
Hm... if the fake KSOW uses Lidar it's signature can only be seen by objects that are directly aimed at by the lidar laser. Instead of using other ways of communication thar are omnidirectional. Yeah, but in the Oniks example above you have a horizon to hide behind and therefore limit your opponent's opportunity to get a good look at you across the EM spectrum. If you're coming at me across hard-vac I've got all the time I need. If you're pinging me with active sensors, I can detect them. If you're relying on pure passive sensors there's no point in using a dedicated missile. The sensors we'd need are already small enough at the resolution we need to fit on the KSOW. In any case, this gets to the crux of the matter. For my lore I am basically presuming a continuation on current trends in sensor miniaturisation. Using a dedicated sensor platform does me no favours because there's nothing for me to displace to make room for it. Does this mean that your KSOW can or can't decouple before entering engagement range? In lore. |
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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 15:21:31 GMT
Yeah, but in the Oniks example above you have a horizon to hide behind and therefore limit your opponent's opportunity to get a good look at you across the EM spectrum. If you're coming at me across hard-vac I've got all the time I need. If you're pinging me with active sensors, I can detect them. If you're relying on pure passive sensors there's no point in using a dedicated missile. The sensors we'd need are already small enough at the resolution we need to fit on the KSOW. In any case, this gets to the crux of the matter. For my lore I am basically presuming a continuation on current trends in sensor miniaturisation. Using a dedicated sensor platform does me no favours because there's nothing for me to displace to make room for it. Does this mean that your KSOW can or can't decouple before entering engagement range? In lore. In lore, it can. I just can't them to hope in CDE. An alpha strike of Morokweng's entire Whisker complement is more or less guaranteed to get through the defences of any ship operating alone. Fleet tactics are a very important part of the milieu. Strictly, in lore, 1 light second is considered knife fight range. Drones are the principle means by which a commander seeks to attrit the enemy without putting his own people and capital ships at risk. Anything past that 1 light second boundary is drone territory. |
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Post by Kerr on Aug 28, 2017 15:33:15 GMT
Does this mean that your KSOW can or can't decouple before entering engagement range? In lore. In lore, it can. I just can't them to hope in CDE. An alpha strike of Morokweng's entire Whisker complement is more or less guaranteed to get through the defences of any ship operating a loan. Fleet tactics are a very important part of the milieu. Strictly, in lore, 1 light second is considered knife fight range. Drones are the principle means by which a commander seeks to attrit the enemy without putting his own people and capital ships at risk. Anything past that 1 light second boundary is drone territory. You can in CoaDe, did that few months ago with my drones after my lasers got so good that they one shot any drone nearly instantly at 10Mm. Disable split fleets and release all your missiles 1-2 ingame min you enter engagement range. |
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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 15:37:19 GMT
In lore, it can. I just can't them to hope in CDE. An alpha strike of Morokweng's entire Whisker complement is more or less guaranteed to get through the defences of any ship operating a loan. Fleet tactics are a very important part of the milieu. Strictly, in lore, 1 light second is considered knife fight range. Drones are the principle means by which a commander seeks to attrit the enemy without putting his own people and capital ships at risk. Anything past that 1 light second boundary is drone territory. You can in CoaDe, did that few months ago with my drones after my lasers got so good that they one shot any drone nearly instantly at 10Mm. Disable split fleets and release all your missiles 1-2 ingame min you enter engagement range. que? You lost me. Thanks for the help though. This is golden. And I feel you on the lasers. My best X-ray design has a beam intensity of 738TW at ten thousand kilometers. 9nm frequency though so that helps. It's also buggy as hell. the game gives me 105% pumping efficiency and I can't work out why. |
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Post by Kerr on Aug 28, 2017 15:41:52 GMT
You can in CoaDe, did that few months ago with my drones after my lasers got so good that they one shot any drone nearly instantly at 10Mm. Disable split fleets and release all your missiles 1-2 ingame min you enter engagement range. que? You lost me. Thanks for the help though. This is golden. And I feel you on the lasers. My best X-ray design has a beam intensity of 738TW at ten thousand kilometers. 9nm frequency though so that helps. It's also buggy as hell. the game gives me 105% pumping efficiency and I can't work out why. "I just can't them to hope in CDE". I thought you didn't knew that it was possible. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Maybe integrate it in your story. 105% efficiency meand it produces negative heat output. Laser cooled drinks. Who needs the laws of thermodyamics anyway if you have that. |
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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 15:56:38 GMT
 The mighty Jefferson Davis making a rare nose on volley with her entire battery of "Ring Gun" particle accelerators. At this point the proudly independent Martians must have been cursing their own truculence.  The Adamite dreadnought Jefferson Davis cuts a Martian Planetary defence force Gunship into three pieces with a nose on volley of her particle accelerators. From "A Pictorial History of the Inner Systems campaigns. Dec 23rd. 2477. |
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Post by Enderminion on Aug 28, 2017 16:16:50 GMT
Does this mean that your KSOW can or can't decouple before entering engagement range? In lore. In lore, it can. I just can't them to hope in CDE. An alpha strike of Morokweng's entire Whisker complement is more or less guaranteed to get through the defences of any ship operating a loan. Fleet tactics are a very important part of the milieu. Strictly, in lore, 1 light second is considered knife fight range. Drones are the principle means by which a commander seeks to attrit the enemy without putting his own people and capital ships at risk. Anything past that 1 light second boundary is drone territory. so if my ship is not a bank it's good? |
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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 17:20:40 GMT
que? You lost me. Thanks for the help though. This is golden. And I feel you on the lasers. My best X-ray design has a beam intensity of 738TW at ten thousand kilometers. 9nm frequency though so that helps. It's also buggy as hell. the game gives me 105% pumping efficiency and I can't work out why. "I just can't them to hope in CDE". I thought you didn't knew that it was possible. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Maybe integrate it in your story. 105% efficiency meand it produces negative heat output. Laser cooled drinks. Who needs the laws of thermodyamics anyway if you have that. It's just a maths error. It's always easier to figure out where you did your sums wrong than to rewrite physics. |
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Post by Kerr on Aug 28, 2017 17:27:32 GMT
"I just can't them to hope in CDE". I thought you didn't knew that it was possible. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Maybe integrate it in your story. 105% efficiency meand it produces negative heat output. Laser cooled drinks. Who needs the laws of thermodyamics anyway if you have that. It's just a maths error. It's always easier to figure out where you did your sums wrong than to rewrite physics. It was sarcasm, you most likely did nothing wrong. CoaDe and over 100% efficiencies have a long history. |
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Post by Kerr on Aug 28, 2017 18:30:34 GMT
ironclad6Do you have the code for metallic hydrogen? Kinda want it, badly.
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Post by ironclad6 on Aug 28, 2017 18:32:21 GMT
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