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Post by gedzilla on May 9, 2017 13:11:44 GMT
Astrogator, would you be so kind as to add the launch costs for the Evacuator 40 and 100? Forgot, sorry. Please don't be too polite, I don't like it.EVC 50: 76,800 c/seat EVC 100: 56,100 c/seat EVC 1200: 47,500 c/seat EVC 1800: 44,278 c/seat (actual cost: 44,277.77... c/seat) We began to construct our tanks out of graphene, and reduce the cost and weight, freeing more mass for delta-v. Class: FutureEvacuator 50 Evacuator 100 Evacuator 1200 Evacuator 1800 U dont like people being to polite ?
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Post by The Astronomer on May 9, 2017 13:18:06 GMT
U dont like people being to polite ? People being too polite to me makes me feel uncomfortable.
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Post by Enderminion on May 9, 2017 13:20:47 GMT
mine has Dv to reach LEO from the equator, on a good day, in a low pressure zone, launching with the rotation of the planet
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Post by The Astronomer on May 9, 2017 13:22:16 GMT
mine has Dv to reach LEO from the equator, on a good day, in a low pressure zone, launching with the rotation of the planet Believe me, the 'good day' doesn't exist at the equator of a heating Earth. Add some extra drop tanks.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 9, 2017 14:12:04 GMT
Updating the cost/person for EVC 40 -> 50 and EVC 100. EVC 50: 73,800 c/seat EVC 100: 62,500 c/seat The seats are free in real game anyways. Btw, I noticed that most people's rocket designs have thrust lower than 1.3 g. This is reasonable if the rocket is actually used in orbit, but those are very inefficient on Earth due to immense gravity loss. PTTG: Spartan Keel -- 1.24 gRandomletters: HVL-N -- 1.13 gArgopeilacos: Earth Escape -- 1.31 gSomeusername6: Escape Ethane -- 1.23 gMmmfriedrice: Escape TSTO -- 1.17 gRandomletters: HVL-C/HVN -- 1.13 g/ 1.24 gNerd1000: Escape 1 -- Nerd1000: Exodus -- 1.29 gAdmiralObvious: Orbiter -- 1.21 gAdmiralObvious: Article 2 -- 1.79 gThe Astronavigator: EVC (all engines on) -- 1.65 g/ 1.91 g/ 1.60 g/ 1.57 g (Note that in real flights, some of these engines are spare engines, or will cut in-flight to reduce the g-load)
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Post by AdmiralObvious on May 9, 2017 19:17:58 GMT
Here's attempt #2. It doesn't look pretty, but it will get you there. Able to take under 6k passengers, for the price of 156,000 credits each, and reasonably plausible to escape the atmosphere. CrewModule 1000 Crew Module
UsesCustomName false
CrewCapacity 1000
Decks 50
StructureMaterial Amorphous Carbon
ShellThickness_m 0.01
CombustionRocketModule 3.60 km/s Fluorine Methane Combustion Rocket
UsesCustomName false
Reaction Fluorine Methane
StoichiometricMixtureRatio 1
ThermalRocket
ChamberComposition Vanadium Chromium Steel
ThroatRadius_m 7.5
ChamberWallThickness_m 0.004
ChamberContractionRatio 3.5
NozzleExpansionRatio 15
NozzleExpansionAngle_degrees 15
RegenerativeCooling_Percent 1
Injector
Composition Aluminum
PumpRadius_m 7
RotationalSpeed_RPM 2.4
GimbalAngle_degrees 0
PropellantTankModule 100 kt Fluorine Tank
UsesCustomName false
Propellant Fluorine
StructureComposition Amorphous Carbon
ReactionMass_kg 1e+008
HeightToRadiusRatio 20
AdditionalArmorThickness_m 0
PropellantTankModule 10.0 kt Methane Drop Tank
UsesCustomName false
Propellant Methane
StructureComposition Amorphous Carbon
ReactionMass_kg 1e+007
HeightToRadiusRatio 20
AdditionalArmorThickness_m 0
External
ExplosiveBoltMass_kg 0.1
ExplosiveBoltComposition Cyclonite
RadioisotopeThermoelectricGeneratorModule 150 kW Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator
UsesCustomName false
FuelPellet
Fuel Actinium-227
Mass_kg 400
Height_m 0.22
Thermocouple
PTypeComposition Tantalum
NTypeComposition Molybdenum
Length_m 0.01
ExitTemperature_K 970
Coolant Hydrogen
Turbopump
Composition Aluminum
PumpRadius_m 0.24
RotationalSpeed_RPM 110
RadiatorModule 4x40 Titanium Carbide Radiator
UsesCustomName false
Composition Titanium Carbide
PanelWidth_m 2
Height_m 40
Thickness_m 0.06
ArmorThickness_m 0.03
Panels 2
FrontTaper_radians 0
BackTaper_radians 0
SurfaceFinish Graphite
CraftBlueprint Article 2
Modules
1000 Crew Module 6 0 null 0
3.60 km/s Fluorine Methane Combustion Rocket 20 0 null 0
100 kt Fluorine Tank 4 0 null 0
10.0 kt Methane Drop Tank 4 81.757 null 0
25.0 m x 0 m Spacer 1 397.51 null 0
150 kW Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator 20 198.75 null 0
4x40 Titanium Carbide Radiator 2 198.75 150 kW Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator 0
100x20 Silicon Carbide Radiator 4 25.387 1000 Crew Module 0.78
Armor
ArmorLayers
Polyethylene 0.01 0 0 1 1
Amorphous Carbon 0.001 0.05 0 1 1
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Post by nerd1000 on May 10, 2017 0:46:58 GMT
Updating the cost/person for EVC 40 -> 50 and EVC 100. EVC 50: 73,800 c/seat EVC 100: 62,500 c/seat The seats are free in real game anyways. Btw, I noticed that most people's rocket designs have thrust lower than 1.3 g. This is reasonable if the rocket is actually used in orbit, but those are very inefficient on Earth due to immense gravity loss. PTTG: Spartan Keel -- 1.24 gRandomletters: HVL-N -- 1.13 gArgopeilacos: Earth Escape -- 1.31 gSomeusername6: Escape Ethane -- 1.23 gMmmfriedrice: Escape TSTO -- 1.17 gRandomletters: HVL-C -- 1.13 g/ 1.24 gNerd1000: Escape 1 -- AdmiralObvious: Orbiter -- 1.21 gThe Astronavigator: EVC (all engines on) -- 1.65 g/ 1.91 g/ 1.60 g/ 1.57 g (Note that in real flights, some of these engines are spare engines, or will cut in-flight to reduce the g-load) My original Escape 1 did around 1.5g on liftoff. Silly as it is, could you add my giant 'Exodus' ship to the list? I've revised the engines for higher chamber pressures (using a diamond chamber with maxed thickness) and expansion ratios at the same nozzle exit pressure. Combined with changing the crew module shell material from boron to magnesium I've managed to increase total passenger/crew capacity to 24000 with a cost of 699 Mc. I think that makes it competitive with pttg's Spartan Keel in cost/seat. I also feel I should get a bonus for making a ship that can be recycled as a space station once it reaches orbit .
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Post by The Astronomer on May 10, 2017 1:15:55 GMT
Updating the cost/person for EVC 40 -> 50 and EVC 100. EVC 50: 73,800 c/seat EVC 100: 62,500 c/seat The seats are free in real game anyways. Btw, I noticed that most people's rocket designs have thrust lower than 1.3 g. This is reasonable if the rocket is actually used in orbit, but those are very inefficient on Earth due to immense gravity loss. PTTG: Spartan Keel -- 1.24 gRandomletters: HVL-N -- 1.13 gArgopeilacos: Earth Escape -- 1.31 gSomeusername6: Escape Ethane -- 1.23 gMmmfriedrice: Escape TSTO -- 1.17 gRandomletters: HVL-C -- 1.13 g/ 1.24 gNerd1000: Escape 1 -- AdmiralObvious: Orbiter -- 1.21 gThe Astronavigator: EVC (all engines on) -- 1.65 g/ 1.91 g/ 1.60 g/ 1.57 g (Note that in real flights, some of these engines are spare engines, or will cut in-flight to reduce the g-load) My original Escape 1 did around 1.5g on liftoff. Silly as it is, could you add my giant 'Exodus' ship to the list? I've revised the engines for higher chamber pressures (using a diamond chamber with maxed thickness) and expansion ratios at the same nozzle exit pressure. Combined with changing the crew module shell material from boron to magnesium I've managed to increase total passenger/crew capacity to 24000 with a cost of 699 Mc. I think that makes it competitive with pttg's Spartan Keel in cost/seat. I also feel I should get a bonus for making a ship that can be recycled as a space station once it reaches orbit . Sorry, but realistically it'd blew up... Structural failure/Magnesium + air + some heat? = spectacular explosion Anyways, THIS IS THE GAME, SO WHO CARES! Added.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 10, 2017 1:28:25 GMT
Here's attempt #2. It doesn't look pretty, but it will get you there. Able to take under 6k passengers, for the price of 156,000 credits each, and reasonably plausible to escape the atmosphere. I have a weird feeling about that ship... It's like it wouldn't survive the aerodynamic forces or some sort. I thought most people here were KSP players ._.
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Post by nerd1000 on May 10, 2017 1:42:17 GMT
My original Escape 1 did around 1.5g on liftoff. Silly as it is, could you add my giant 'Exodus' ship to the list? I've revised the engines for higher chamber pressures (using a diamond chamber with maxed thickness) and expansion ratios at the same nozzle exit pressure. Combined with changing the crew module shell material from boron to magnesium I've managed to increase total passenger/crew capacity to 24000 with a cost of 699 Mc. I think that makes it competitive with pttg's Spartan Keel in cost/seat. I also feel I should get a bonus for making a ship that can be recycled as a space station once it reaches orbit . Sorry, but realistically it'd blew up... Structural failure/Magnesium + air + some heat? = spectacular explosion Anyways, THIS IS THE GAME, SO WHO CARES! Added. Magnesium autoignition temperature is 746K. With a sane launch profile I don't see it catching fire. However, as a precaution the interior of the crew modules is subject to a strict no smoking rule.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 10, 2017 1:43:53 GMT
Sorry, but realistically it'd blew up... Structural failure/Magnesium + air + some heat? = spectacular explosion Anyways, THIS IS THE GAME, SO WHO CARES! Added. Magnesium autoignition temperature is 746K. With a sane launch profile I don't see it catching fire. However, as a precaution the interior of the crew modules is subject to a strict no smoking rule. Are you expecting a sane launch in a state of emergency? I'm expecting a Kerbal-style launch. Structural failure is a realistic problem though. With 2 mm thick magnesium armor this is the main concern.
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Post by AdmiralObvious on May 10, 2017 1:48:33 GMT
Here's attempt #2. It doesn't look pretty, but it will get you there. Able to take under 6k passengers, for the price of 156,000 credits each, and reasonably plausible to escape the atmosphere. I have a weird feeling about that ship... It's like it wouldn't survive the aerodynamic forces or some sort. I thought most people here were KSP players ._. As the manufacturer of the ship, all warranties are void on exposure to air.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 10, 2017 1:50:42 GMT
I have a weird feeling about that ship... It's like it wouldn't survive the aerodynamic forces or some sort. I thought most people here were KSP players ._. As the manufacturer of the ship, all warranties are void on exposure to air. Kerbal.
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Post by Enderminion on May 10, 2017 2:23:18 GMT
has my ship been added? 60G accel dry and 4 wet
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Post by The Astronomer on May 10, 2017 2:30:31 GMT
has my ship been added? 60G accel dry and 4 wet Is that an escape ship for criminals?
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