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Post by ash19256 on Mar 10, 2017 1:45:03 GMT
which is also possible vegemeister (hacking the capitals) Unless all of the capital ships use whisker laser comms, and don't actually have active radio communications in battle. Sure, you might carry a radio set for when you need to tell civilian traffic to get out of your way, but in combat radio is too vulnerable.
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Post by thorneel on Mar 10, 2017 10:28:17 GMT
thorneel for the rigid boom I still don't see the point. It will still move your center of mass somewhere and the rigidity will make it more controllable but I don't use think the threat for the missile swarms are hyper concentrated beams, I'm finding them quite incapable of dealing with small fast targets like missile swarms, so the threat is unfocused wide beam that can bake you longer keeping the target inside. A lot of them. And they will harm your boom. And then you need to armor it so the mass will increase... You are all thinking of complicated solutions to a problem that is not that different from what missiles are already facing. I mean lasers blinding sensors is not that different then lasers baking the whole missile. Its just an escalation. I don't see what is complicated with poking a small, slightly hardened smartphone camera out of the missile, throw it away once it has been burned and poking another one later. As sacrificial sensors, their mass is negligible and any small imbalance would be easy to compensate for. Sure, if the missile is lased then the smartphone camera will be instantly burned, but probably not before getting one frame, which is all what is needed. About hacking, it is best to ignore it as one-time pads and laser comms outside of atmosphere are practically unhackable - or rather, if they are hacked, as said before, then the other side has lost before the battle even started. That's the cyber equivalent of hiding a bomb in their crew quarters. You will note that even through hacking is a very real threat during, say, a conflict between Western powers and China, it is not included in otherwise extremely thorough combat sim like Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations. Scenario designers could include it with scripts, but it is not directly part of the scope anymore than economic warfare.
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Post by concretedonkey on Mar 10, 2017 11:23:45 GMT
I don't see what is complicated with poking a small, slightly hardened smartphone camera out of the missile, throw it away once it has been burned and poking another one later. As sacrificial sensors, their mass is negligible and any small imbalance would be easy to compensate for. Sure, if the missile is lased then the smartphone camera will be instantly burned, but probably not before getting one frame, which is all what is needed. ... mm if you put it that way - a disposable small boom without any protection and you have several of them , it makes more sense. However why not just connect to a different missile and use its sensors ? I'm thinking about something like the guidance of Granit , where you have dedicated "watchers" in the swarm, with the added plus that you are not operating on a planet and there is no need to do anything special with the watcher - its just one missile of the swarm and if the sensors are passive , the enemy has no indication which one is it.
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Post by peasant on Apr 17, 2024 15:54:26 GMT
I've just realized something: in order for the IR sensor located in the nose section of the missile to see it's target, whatever material used to armour it from lasers needs to be transparent to IR light. You know what generates a lot of blackbody radiation at temperatures between 1000-1400°K? Enemy ships radiators. You know what else? Your missile's frontal armour when heated up to the same temperature by a powerful laser. Even before it burns all the way through, your missile is immediately incapacitated until the laser stops firing AND the frontal armour cool off (which will take minutes in the vacuum).
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Post by sage on Apr 24, 2024 17:59:08 GMT
I've just realized something: in order for the IR sensor located in the nose section of the missile to see it's target, whatever material used to armour it from lasers needs to be transparent to IR light. You know what generates a lot of blackbody radiation at temperatures between 1000-1400°K? Enemy ships radiators. You know what else? Your missile's frontal armour when heated up to the same temperature by a powerful laser. Even before it burns all the way through, your missile is immediately incapacitated until the laser stops firing AND the frontal armour cool off (which will take minutes in the vacuum). Other problem is that it produces a weak spot in the front armor to any weapons system. Not ideal for missiles to have. There is a way around this and that is to put 8 small sensors around the edge of the missile. This leaves the front fully armored. But the sensors size and type will effect it tracking range. This is something that I am looking into right now.
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