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Post by gedzilla on Feb 23, 2017 18:25:09 GMT
I have basically no knowledge in making lasers, and yet i find myself needing a few different types (and im not going to use the game's, as all non custom modules are horrible). i looked in the SSOS thread, but most of those were GW lasers, which is not really what im looking for.
So, i would really apreciate it if you had decent lasers in the categories im looking for (or any good ones really), and could share them.
1) a "lighter" laser, 30-50 MW input
Dimensions, roughly: 4.5 x 4 x 5.5
2) a "medium" laser, 100-150 MW input
Dimensions, roughly: 7 x 6 x 9
3) a "heavier" laser, 250-400MW input
Dimensions roughly: as small as you can make it.
In terms of output power, well, as best as you have i guess.
Think of it as a design challenge, if you dont already have them :-)
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Post by newageofpower on Feb 23, 2017 18:31:37 GMT
Well, its mostly determined by the ranges and mirror size you're looking for. You need at ~ 20 MW/m2 at your maximum combat range and preferably closer to 100 MW/m2 to ensure ablation saturation.
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Post by gedzilla on Feb 23, 2017 18:50:47 GMT
well, mirror size largely determines the turret size, as far as i know, which is why i included dimensions (im meters).
as for ranges, well i mean, as tight a beam as possible i guess (thats more up to the creators discresion)
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Post by Enderminion on Feb 23, 2017 19:09:54 GMT
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Post by gedzilla on Feb 23, 2017 20:40:58 GMT
thanks, but those are just screenshots of the lasers in the compare/list viewer. i cant see the details of the lasers to replicate them. maybe post screenshots of them in the designer view so i can see the details on the sides ? |
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 23, 2017 21:55:07 GMT
Here is a light laser within your spec of ~5m diameter and 50MW. The one stat that is rounded (and not listed properly) is the aperture which is 1.131 (not 1.13).   |
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 23, 2017 22:18:17 GMT
Here is a medium laser within your spec of ~8m and 150MW. The one stat that is rounded (and not listed properly) is the aperture which is 1.885 (not 1.89).   |
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Post by gedzilla on Feb 23, 2017 22:23:07 GMT
Here is a light laser within your spec of ~5m diameter and T50MW. The one stat that is rounded (and not listed properly) is the aperture which is 1.131 (not 1.13). *fixing this atm standby* Thanks a ton |
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 23, 2017 22:29:27 GMT
Here is a light laser within your spec of ~5m diameter and T50MW. The one stat that is rounded (and not listed properly) is the aperture which is 1.131 (not 1.13). *fixing this atm standby* Thanks a ton Fixed now I forgot to set the right inlet for the coolant originally (which was making it way heavier than necessary). |
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 23, 2017 22:50:39 GMT
I was going to do some math to figure out what the optimal laser would be for the heavy one to get the cheapest overall 100MW/m^2 beam @ 1Mm so that one will take a little bit longer those 2 should be fine for what you were looking for though.
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Post by gedzilla on Feb 24, 2017 9:22:34 GMT
Thanks jasonvance :-)
any luck on the 250-400 ?
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 24, 2017 10:53:46 GMT
Thanks jasonvance :-) any luck on the 250-400 ? Well I can throw together one for that power input and make the laser small as a result but I wanted to present a cheaper alternative (when taking power generation mass and cost into account). This 19MW enormous laser will produce a 100MW/m^2 intensity at 1Mm for the cheapest possible total cost. For total cost (power, radiators, and the laser itself) this comes in at just 22,952c and a combined mass of 3.432 tons. I would make the argument that if you want the most dps / cost and want to use 380MW 20 of these things on the nose of your craft would be the most optimal fit for only 459,040c. For that same cost you could only fit 5 of the 150MW medium lasers (which would take 750MW). Without even taking into account this beam intensity is 3x stronger than the medium laser. Aperture Size is: 9.108 Turret inner radius size is: 19.321 Coolant Pump rotational speed: 114.2   |
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 24, 2017 11:04:50 GMT
I also threw together a 400MW laser that followed the same metrics as the others in case you didn't want to build enormous laser arrays of enormous lasers, even though they are cheaper. I hope you will at least give the cheap big laser a thought though since it did take a lot of math to figure out.  Aperture size: 2.357   |
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Post by gedzilla on Feb 25, 2017 18:35:27 GMT
jasonvance, i will think about the huge lasers, but i was looking for smaller ones, becuase the had to hit in the spaces avialable for them on this ship    Thanks a ton for the lasers :-) im going to incorporate the 400 MW lasers, in an even larger design, maybe a laser battleship. is there anyway to make the laser's radiators more effecient ? (so i could use less ?) |
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Post by jasonvance on Feb 25, 2017 19:03:05 GMT
jasonvance, i will think about the huge lasers, but i was looking for smaller ones, becuase the had to hit in the spaces avialable for them on this ship Thanks a ton for the lasers :-) im going to incorporate the 400 MW lasers, in an even larger design, maybe a laser battleship. is there anyway to make the laser's radiators more effecient ? (so i could use less ?) I can give it a higher melting temp mirror which would increase the outlet and reduce the radiator surface area but the total cost and mass will go up very significantly. Atm it is optimized for the aluminium mirror with calcium radiators. The only other way to get less radiator surface area is to use less power with a larger aperture to make up the intensity difference (aka the enormous laser) but you wanted small heh. I'll tinker with a higher temp outlet since you want to keep it small and see if I can make anything reasonable but expect to see a huge total price and mass increase to accompany the lesser radiator surface area. |
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