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Post by newageofpower on Mar 10, 2017 5:11:11 GMT
My 635km/s flak gun crashes the game every 2 shots. On the other hand, most reasonable targets die in one! Wow, what's the per shot energy on that? Link here.Design is somewhere in the same thread.
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Post by Hicks on Mar 10, 2017 17:01:52 GMT
So I've been using a variant from earlier in this thread that goes like this:
Boron, 2cm <--Inside Boron, 8cm (front 38% only) Graphite Aerogel, 1m Amorphous Carbon, 1cm Diamond, 5mm <--Outside
And I gotta say that as long as it is taking the hits on the pointed bow, it is immune to everything a Gunship can do to it from the front, including 30 strong Flack missiles. No it dosen't shoot the missiles down, it takes every missile and gun and laser straight in the face and dosen't break. The armor wraps around a custom 5.6kt cannon ship that is armed with 12 conventional gun turrets (armored in 20cm of amorphous carbon) that shoot 1kg of ironover 3kps.
That's 100 flack missiles, some sniper coilguns, and a 100MW laser. Drones can still strip the turrets though. Needs a better turret armor.
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 10, 2017 17:14:18 GMT
composite turret armour would be nice
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Post by beta on Mar 10, 2017 18:04:09 GMT
Composite armour on anything that can be armoured would be nice ...
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 10, 2017 18:06:21 GMT
yes imagine tanks with UHMWPE liners with P-aramid Boron composite armour
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Post by thorneel on Mar 10, 2017 20:42:29 GMT
Internal armour for compartments would also be nice (as radiation shields break as one single piece of armour)
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 10, 2017 20:48:19 GMT
composite armour for modules would be nice
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Post by newageofpower on Mar 10, 2017 22:43:04 GMT
So I've been using a variant from earlier in this thread that goes like this: Boron, 2cm <--Inside Boron, 8cm (front 38% only) Graphite Aerogel, 1m Amorphous Carbon, 1cm Diamond, 5mm <--Outside And I gotta say that as long as it is taking the hits on the pointed bow, it is immune to everything a Gunship can do to it from the front, including 30 strong Flack missiles. No it dosen't shoot the missiles down, it takes every missile and gun and laser straight in the face and dosen't break. The armor wraps around a custom 5.6kt cannon ship that is armed with 12 conventional gun turrets (armored in 20cm of amorphous carbon) that shoot 1kg of ironover 3kps. That's 100 flack missiles, some sniper coilguns, and a 100MW laser. Drones can still strip the turrets though. Needs a better turret armor. I need to be able to place weapons spinally, inside the main hull. I have multi-kiloton designs that are impractical as a turret, but as part of a gyrostabilized spinal weapon with a few degrees of motion could be pretty viable.
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 12, 2017 1:26:27 GMT
I'm recently interested in making anti kinetic armor for my sub-capital drone so they can actually take a beating instead of exploding as soon as anything hit them due to their light weight silica gel armor.
So here's my current test armor composite.
1.5 cm boron 100.0 cm graphite gel 0.5 mm boron 100.0 cm graphite gel 3.0 mm amorphous carbon 0.5 mm diamond
It works well under fire so far, and light enough for my sub-capital to be armored with without sacrificing too much delta-v.
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Post by gedzilla on Mar 12, 2017 7:07:29 GMT
I'm recently interested in making anti kinetic armor for my sub-capital drone so they can actually take a beating instead of exploding as soon as anything hit them due to their light weight silica gel armor. So here's my current test armor composite. 1.5 cm boron 100.0 cm graphite gel 0.5 mm boron 100.0 cm graphite gel 3.0 mm amorphous carbon 0.5 mm diamond It works well under fire so far, and light enough for my sub-capital to be armored with without sacrificing too much delta-v. Thats alot of spacing for your wipple shield, how does that not totally balloon your cross section ?
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 12, 2017 8:19:01 GMT
I'm recently interested in making anti kinetic armor for my sub-capital drone so they can actually take a beating instead of exploding as soon as anything hit them due to their light weight silica gel armor. So here's my current test armor composite. 1.5 cm boron 100.0 cm graphite gel 0.5 mm boron 100.0 cm graphite gel 3.0 mm amorphous carbon 0.5 mm diamond It works well under fire so far, and light enough for my sub-capital to be armored with without sacrificing too much delta-v. Thats alot of spacing for your wipple shield, how does that not totally balloon your cross section ? Honestly, I kinda forgot how much graphite gel stuffing is needed to have decent level of kinetic damage immunity. But since it required multiple stock ship to mission kill my sub-capital drone while I intentionally throw it into hellfire for minutes, I guess it works.
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Post by gedzilla on Mar 12, 2017 9:05:14 GMT
Thats alot of spacing for your wipple shield, how does that not totally balloon your cross section ? Honestly, I kinda forgot how much graphite gel stuffing is needed to have decent level of kinetic damage immunity. But since it required multiple stock ship to mission kill my sub-capital drone while I intentionally throw it into hellfire for minutes, I guess it works. How much does it increase the mass ? I think you could get away with 30cm gap/light density stuffing between each layer. Or maybe 40-50cm gap/light density stuffing if you only have one wipple shield. It would save on mass I believe while still providing great protection. I suggest you duplicate one of your drones, drop the gap width to the lower levels and see how much it impacts the protection vs how much mass you saved. Just my opinion :-)
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Post by concretedonkey on Mar 12, 2017 9:12:37 GMT
How much does it increase the mass ? I think you could get away with 30cm gap/light density stuffing between each layer. Or maybe 40-50cm gap/light density stuffing if you only have one wipple shield. It would save on mass I believe while still providing great protection. I suggest you duplicate one of your drones, drop the gap width to the lower levels and see how much it impacts the protection vs how much mass you saved. Just my opinion :-) Thing with this kind of armour layout is that most of the mass is in the lowest layer and the increased cross section doesn't hurt you so much. That being said for a cap drone it really depends on how much you count on it surviving hits. My last one had only one layer with 50cm aerogel and maybe 1 2 cm of boron inside.
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Post by dragonkid11 on Mar 12, 2017 9:18:43 GMT
I originally just want it to be able to handle a few stray round as it was well, a carrier drone and not a combat drone. I then decided to up its protection to slightly below my old capital ship design which are tough as nail and well... It become a comically tough nut to crack.
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Post by concretedonkey on Mar 12, 2017 9:36:29 GMT
I originally just want it to be able to handle a few stray round as it was well, a carrier drone and not a combat drone. I then decided to up its protection to slightly below my old capital ship design which are tough as nail and well... It become a comically tough nut to crack. Have you tried more than 5 layers ? Now that we can afford it ?
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