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Post by bigbombr on Sept 27, 2018 5:34:56 GMT
I wonder if that 0.67kg is every day or an average over time, because you don't need to eat every day. The body is adapted to putting up with fasting periods of anything from 3 to 30 days, and if you eat less your metabolism slows to match and actually bothers to recycle and repair old cells etc. and mental acuity actually increases. The trouble with people (and life in general) is access to trace vitamins and minerals rather than energy. Yo rocketwitch, this is off topic, but do u know where all the old regulars went ? These forums used to be bustling with all these familiar users, and now there almost all gone. You, newageofpower, apophys and (maybe) me, are all thats left of the old guard I still watch this forum more or less daily, though admittedly I'm not that renown. But I've also noticed many familiar faces (so to speak) are gone. It's the nature of things.
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Post by AdmiralObvious on Sept 27, 2018 5:53:45 GMT
Yo rocketwitch, this is off topic, but do u know where all the old regulars went ? These forums used to be bustling with all these familiar users, and now there almost all gone. You, newageofpower, apophys and (maybe) me, are all thats left of the old guard I still watch this forum more or less daily, though admittedly I'm not that renown. But I've also noticed many familiar faces (so to speak) are gone. It's the nature of things. I do the same. Mostly via my phone. I'd post more, but the banner ads on the mobile version of this site sometimes seems to crash the page.
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Post by The Astronomer on Sept 27, 2018 6:39:51 GMT
I'm still around lurking occasionally. My passion is like a sine wave, so expect me to pop up and disappear shortly afterwards often.
Old people going and new faces coming, such is the nature of reality.
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Post by thorneel on Sept 27, 2018 13:51:38 GMT
Yo rocketwitch, this is off topic, but do u know where all the old regulars went ? These forums used to be bustling with all these familiar users, and now there almost all gone. You, newageofpower, apophys and (maybe) me, are all thats left of the old guard I still watch this forum more or less daily, though admittedly I'm not that renown. But I've also noticed many familiar faces (so to speak) are gone. It's the nature of things. Same here, though I post very rarely now.
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Post by gedzilla on Sept 27, 2018 19:01:01 GMT
Yo rocketwitch, this is off topic, but do u know where all the old regulars went ? These forums used to be bustling with all these familiar users, and now there almost all gone. You, newageofpower, apophys and (maybe) me, are all thats left of the old guard I still watch this forum more or less daily, though admittedly I'm not that renown. But I've also noticed many familiar faces (so to speak) are gone. It's the nature of things. Sorry for forgetting about you Do you know where everyone went ? Are their other (hopefully Atomic Rovkets approved) realistic space sims ?
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Post by Rocket Witch on Sept 28, 2018 0:40:01 GMT
Yo rocketwitch, this is off topic, but do u know where all the old regulars went ? These forums used to be bustling with all these familiar users, and now there almost all gone. You, newageofpower, apophys and (maybe) me, are all thats left of the old guard The 'users online in the last 24 hours' segment at the bottom of the home page still shows pretty much all the familiar names. Lurking is a lot more common than one might expect.
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Sept 28, 2018 7:43:01 GMT
I would have joined much earlier if this game was on GOG instead of just Steam.
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Post by Apotheon on Sept 28, 2018 20:52:21 GMT
I wonder if that 0.67kg is every day or an average over time, because you don't need to eat every day. The body is adapted to putting up with fasting periods of anything from 3 to 30 days, and if you eat less your metabolism slows to match and actually bothers to recycle and repair old cells etc. and mental acuity actually increases. The trouble with people (and life in general) is access to trace vitamins and minerals rather than energy. I wonder if that 0.67kg is every day or an average over time, because you don't need to eat every day. The body is adapted to putting up with fasting periods of anything from 3 to 30 days, and if you eat less your metabolism slows to match and actually bothers to recycle and repair old cells etc. and mental acuity actually increases. The trouble with people (and life in general) is access to trace vitamins and minerals rather than energy. 0.67 kg daily, I’d say. I mean, you could skip one day and double the next, but what would be the point? It’s based on energy consumption, which is based on a weekly schedule. It’s actually not complicated. A 2015 document states 0.62 kg as a baseline for IVA (you add for any EVA). However, ISS astronauts eat three times as much, serving as a reference for an active crew! As I mentioned, NASA and research affiliates have really managed to create uncomplicated models of life support by breaking stuff down into logical parts. It’s probably possible to create a supply calculator with only a handful of inputs, if you half-ass the “inorganic supplies” (clothes and wipes) category. Anyway, I’m really curious how command module volume and mass are calculated. Volume appears quite small! As for weight, I wonder if a few months of life support systems/supplies are already accounted for.
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Post by Apotheon on Sept 28, 2018 20:55:12 GMT
I still watch this forum more or less daily, though admittedly I'm not that renown. But I've also noticed many familiar faces (so to speak) are gone. It's the nature of things. Sorry for forgetting about you Do you know where everyone went ? Are their other (hopefully Atomic Rovkets approved) realistic space sims ? Starfighter Inc is in development! Besides KSP obviously.
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Post by Rocket Witch on Oct 5, 2018 18:17:26 GMT
0.67 kg daily, I’d say. I mean, you could skip one day and double the next, but what would be the point? It was at one point found that eating every other day surprisingly doesn't cause people to double their meals. One might end up averaging 0.5 kg daily intake, just for example. I can't reference the study sadly; something like 16 people over 3 weeks... or was it 2 months? In any case not long enough for a complete dietary evaluation, but for minimising the life support provision on ships this kind of practice may be of interest.
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Post by Dhan on Oct 5, 2018 18:46:17 GMT
0.67 kg daily, I’d say. I mean, you could skip one day and double the next, but what would be the point? It was at one point found that eating every other day surprisingly doesn't cause people to double their meals. One might end up averaging 0.5 kg daily intake, just for example. I can't reference the study sadly; something like 16 people over 3 weeks... or was it 2 months? In any case not long enough for a complete dietary evaluation, but for minimising the life support provision on ships this kind of practice may be of interest. Good for the logistics department but terrible for morale.
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Post by ghgh on Oct 5, 2018 19:10:12 GMT
It was at one point found that eating every other day surprisingly doesn't cause people to double their meals. One might end up averaging 0.5 kg daily intake, just for example. I can't reference the study sadly; something like 16 people over 3 weeks... or was it 2 months? In any case not long enough for a complete dietary evaluation, but for minimising the life support provision on ships this kind of practice may be of interest. Good for the logistics department but terrible for morale. There's a reason we have so many cooks on the ship and it's not to ward off dysentery. Cutting the food rations of people in a cramped (2/3 the NASA standard of 25m^3 per person most COADE compartments end up being 18m^3 per person) tin can millions of miles from home is a good way to incite a mutiny. Spoil them with food if you're going to starve them for space. Source for that NASA standard ston.jsc.nasa.gov/collections/trs/_techrep/TM-2015-218564.pdf ISS
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Post by AtomHeartDragon on Oct 6, 2018 11:07:00 GMT
In space there is really no reason to be starved for space, though. It's not a sub, you don't need to fit everything into a small, sturdy, stealthy and streamlined pressure vessel. Pack inflatable habs, and only use hard, densely packed CMs for actual combat (deflate habs for future use). You can actually put them outside the hull but even if you want to keep them under armour there should be plenty of room around and between internal components that's still shadowed by the radshield(s).
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Post by bigbombr on Oct 7, 2018 5:21:59 GMT
In space there is really no reason to be starved for space, though. It's not a sub, you don't need to fit everything into a small, sturdy, stealthy and streamlined pressure vessel. Pack inflatable habs, and only use hard, densely packed CMs for actual combat (deflate habs for future use). You can actually put them outside the hull but even if you want to keep them under armour there should be plenty of room around and between internal components that's still shadowed by the radshield(s). Radiation shielding though.
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