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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 14, 2016 18:13:09 GMT
Ok so I was looking up Basalt Fiber Composite and in the wiki article it also lists a wide variety of other materials and carbon fiber reinforced plastics had some seriously nice performance figures and are used in aerospace applications in the modern day and age. Same thing goes for kevlar. They both seem like really useful armor material or structural material and as far as I can tell they are not currently in the game and I would think they would be as they are both rather useful materials that I think would be widely used.
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Post by teeth on Oct 14, 2016 18:43:35 GMT
The aramid fiber is the same thing as kevlar (more or less, kevlar is a type of aramid fiber but I'm not sure what other types of aramids there are), reinforced carbon-carbon is short for carbon fiber-reinforced carbon, which is carbon fiber over graphite.
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Post by oprean on Oct 14, 2016 18:46:45 GMT
Isn't Kevlar a type or para aramid? anyways, you can try aramid or para aramid materials, to suit your fancy.
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 14, 2016 18:50:49 GMT
The aramid fiber is the same thing as kevlar (more or less, kevlar is a type of aramid fiber but I'm not sure what other types of aramids there are), reinforced carbon-carbon is short for carbon fiber-reinforced carbon, which is carbon fiber over graphite. Ok cool glad to know that Kevlar is a aramid fiber. But I was talking about reinforced plastics. Not reinforced carbon carbon. The main difference is its carbon fiber reinforcing plastic which I believe has better physical properties than carbon carbon. Such as resisting impacts. But probably a lot worse thermal properties. I think that would be nice to have as an inner layer of armor behind a thermal protection layer to make a tougher armor. Because carbon carbon is really brittle and I think that carbon fiber reinforced plastic would be far less brittle but melts a lot easier. |
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Post by foof on Oct 14, 2016 23:20:33 GMT
Kevlar is just a brand name para-aramid made by DuPont, others you might know are Nomex and Technora. Regarding the carbon fiber reinforced polymer, you should find most of the needed properties to create a CFRP definiton for CDE here. Basic Properties of Reference Crossply Carbon-Fiber Composite. [pdf] Oak Ridge National Laboratory (February 2000) Take a look at the \Children of a Dead Earth\Resources\Data\Materials folder. The materials are stored as normal .txt files. |
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 14, 2016 23:30:09 GMT
Kevlar is just a brand name para-aramid made by DuPont, others you might know are Nomex and Technora. Regarding the carbon fiber reinforced polymer, you should find most of the needed properties to create a CFRP definiton for CDE here. Basic Properties of Reference Crossply Carbon-Fiber Composite. [pdf] Oak Ridge National Laboratory (February 2000) Take a look at the \Children of a Dead Earth\Resources\Data\Materials folder. The materials are stored as normal .txt files. So you are saying I can make it as a material in game by making a .txt file? Is that right? |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Oct 15, 2016 0:40:36 GMT
Kevlar is just a brand name para-aramid made by DuPont, others you might know are Nomex and Technora. Regarding the carbon fiber reinforced polymer, you should find most of the needed properties to create a CFRP definiton for CDE here. Basic Properties of Reference Crossply Carbon-Fiber Composite. [pdf] Oak Ridge National Laboratory (February 2000) Take a look at the \Children of a Dead Earth\Resources\Data\Materials folder. The materials are stored as normal .txt files. So you are saying I can make it as a material in game by making a .txt file? Is that right? You can. The problem is some of the files are completely mess thanks to their arrangement... And that no one has ever tried to mod it yet. |
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Post by RA2lover on Oct 15, 2016 0:57:35 GMT
The files are readable - they just have an inconsistent format as some of them use CRLF(which notepad parses as a new line) and others use just LF(which notepad doesn't parse as a newline).
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Post by captinjoehenry on Oct 15, 2016 1:10:11 GMT
Eh so for now I'm not going to mess with it if that's the situation of the files  |
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Post by foof on Oct 15, 2016 9:51:14 GMT
Eh so for now I'm not going to mess with it if that's the situation of the files Simply use Geany or Notepad++ this is what UHMWPE looks like, just as an example.
Material UHMWPE
Elements C H
ElementCount 200000 400000
Density_kg__m3 970
UltimateTensileStrength_MPa 3900
YieldStrength_MPa 3900
YoungsModulus_GPa 172
ShearModulus_GPa 58.9
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 1850
MeltingPoint_K 425
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K 20
ThermalExpansion__K 110e-6
Resistivity_Ohm_m 1e14
DielectricStrength_MV__m 90
RelativePermittivity 2.25
RefractiveIndex Polyethylene
RoughnessCoefficient .8
If I remember correctly someone has already made Graphene for CDE but I can't find the post at the moment. Maybe we should start a materials mod thread in General Discussion? Edit: Found it: Modding Materials - Graphene |
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Post by dragonkid11 on Oct 16, 2016 9:17:54 GMT
It's kinda a shame that both of them are really expensive.
1cm of aramid fibre on my 1.5 kt ship costs something like 5 millions credit or more.
The whole thing costs 20 mc.
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Post by foof on Oct 16, 2016 9:33:51 GMT
It's kinda a shame that both of them are really expensive. 1cm of aramid fibre on my 1.5 kt ship costs something like 5 millions credit or more. The whole thing costs 20 mc. Agreed, something like FR-4 would be awesome, dirt cheap and the physical properties are not bad. Plus it's some of the worst stuff to laser-cut  |
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