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Post by 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖒𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖈𝖑𝖊 on Oct 15, 2017 4:55:36 GMT
No railguns, coilguns, missiles,
or drones... except on missions where it forces you to have their ships. On missions where you build your own ships, you cannot use any of those.
Good luck
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Post by The Astronomer on Oct 15, 2017 5:23:30 GMT
Oh, so lasers are allowed? :3
That aside, are launchers and blast launchers launching combustion gun payloads allowed?
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Post by 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖒𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖈𝖑𝖊 on Oct 15, 2017 5:45:50 GMT
Oh, so lasers are allowed? :3That aside, are launchers and blast launchers launching combustion gun payloads allowed? Yes, you can use them to fire explosives and stuff as long as its not rocket powered |
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Post by 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖒𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖈𝖑𝖊 on Oct 15, 2017 5:52:13 GMT
Oh, so lasers are allowed? :3That aside, are launchers and blast launchers launching combustion gun payloads allowed? Like, you can totally nuke them, but you just have to fire the nuke out of a cannon first lol |
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Post by dichebach on Oct 30, 2017 4:51:51 GMT
Might have to try this once I beat it "vanilla."
BTW, what "happens" after you finish all the campaign missions? Does it change into more of a "sandbox" mode where there is an ongoing war between RFP and USTA and the player gets a budget and can design and build fleets and engage in never ending battles with semi-random computer opponent fleets?
Or does it just sort of "end," and the additional gameplay most diehards resort to is just sandbox?
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Post by bigbombr on Oct 30, 2017 5:51:07 GMT
Might have to try this once I beat it "vanilla." BTW, what "happens" after you finish all the campaign missions? Does it change into more of a "sandbox" mode where there is an ongoing war between RFP and USTA and the player gets a budget and can design and build fleets and engage in never ending battles with semi-random computer opponent fleets? Or does it just sort of "end," and the additional gameplay most diehards resort to is just sandbox? The latter. The ending is pretty horrifying though. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Oct 30, 2017 10:11:15 GMT
I believe that many people would convert to More Dakkaism in response to this challenge.
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Post by dichebach on Oct 30, 2017 12:42:31 GMT
Might have to try this once I beat it "vanilla." BTW, what "happens" after you finish all the campaign missions? Does it change into more of a "sandbox" mode where there is an ongoing war between RFP and USTA and the player gets a budget and can design and build fleets and engage in never ending battles with semi-random computer opponent fleets? Or does it just sort of "end," and the additional gameplay most diehards resort to is just sandbox? The latter. The ending is pretty horrifying though. Bummers . . . I guess mods/sequels/expansions are the way forward then? We need logistics, ship production, realistic population models, trade! and its economic and health ripples (Jeebus, can you imagine living on an airless barren irradiated rock and being blockaded; sorry the air ration will need to be halved. Please try to breath a bit less . . . maybe take a nap) |
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Post by The Astronomer on Oct 30, 2017 12:51:01 GMT
The latter. The ending is pretty horrifying though. Bummers . . . I guess mods/sequels/expansions are the way forward then? We need logistics, ship production, realistic population models, trade! and its economic and health ripples (Jeebus, can you imagine living on an airless barren irradiated rock and being blockaded; sorry the air ration will need to be halved. Please try to breath a bit less . . . maybe take a nap) Oh hey, speaking about the sequel! I used to have a project called 'Project Prosperous' which is intended to be an alternate version of the campaign. Right now its concepts are revived partially as a standalone game, maybe. Ask Tukuro. Anyways, if you're willing to spend some of your time on fun and useless things, I recommend you to try writing your own campaign! The campaign is fully editable, and if you like you can write your own story and replicate them using things available in the game. Speaker USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson
Alliance United Sol Trade Alliance
StarterFleet TitanInvasionForce
ShipTypes Fleet Carrier Siloship Large Methane Tanker
CanCustomize true
StarterFleet TitanEnemyForce
ShipTypes Hiveship Solar Lance Ranger Ranger Corsair
Level The Fall of Titan
JulianYear 2257.4
Description
This is it. We own the Jovian orbital space, and the Liberty Exchange, sensing our imminent victory, is supplying our ships with enough ordnance to ensure the Jovian moons are naught but a nuisance to us from now on. That means that Saturn is the last holdout of the USTA.
They've been requesting an audience with we at high command for a while now, with an offer of their own conditional surrender, but we have no interest in that. You see, a conditional surrender would leave them with the means to rebuild and regroup and, over the course of the next few decades, recreate their original military might. They might just strike when we finally let down our guard, confident in our superiority over Sol. If we force them to accept an unconditional surrender through threat of nuking and paving their cities, we can effectively neuter their entire military and their faction in general.
The USTA will be forced to capitulate, and we will assimilate all of their people into our own faction, all of their moons and asteroids as our own claims, and then we will be the only remaining superpower of the solar system, of all of humanity. Because once the USTA falls, our economic sanctions against Nippon Prime is sure to collapse their economy as well. Right now, they are squabbling for control over the belt, and our other Admirals are dealing with their marauding, while you will be spearheading the assault on Saturn. Since the rest of our forces are busy fortifying the belt until Nippon Prime collapses, you'll have to make do with what we can give you for invading Saturn.
But some good news. Our allies, the Iroquois Resurgence, smelling blood in the water, and eager to take advantage of the collapsing USTA, have taken their scant forces around Saturn and struck Enceladus, taking control of that moon. They clearly intend to start pillaging and claiming the USTA moons as the faction begins to crumble, and to appease us, have offered us a safe staging point from orbit of Enceladus. You'll be launching your assault from Enceladus, as a result.
The highest ranking USTA commander, Fleet Admiral Brian Jefferson, has realized this and fled to Titan to protect their capital Mezzoramia City. Despite the fact that their forces have concentrated in low orbit above Titan, we still dare not try to stage our invasion from any other moon than Enceladus as they most assuredly have hidden anti-space missile silos on all of their moons. USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson is known for caution and defensiveness, unlike many of his commanders, and quite the polar opposite of his former second in command that you killed back at Vesta, Adm. Voitenko. We believe he's afraid, as he rightfully should be, being the last garrison of his faction. There's a hero's welcome for you at home, should you manage to eliminate him.
Once Jefferson is ash orbiting Titan, the USTA will collapse, the last of their space military defeated. We and the other smaller factions like the Iroquois Resurgence and Liberty Exchange will divvy up the moons of Saturn. Nippon Prime's economy is expected to implode soon after. In the end, we will be the victors. We will be the ones standing over the ashes of our opponents. Sol will be ours!
Make us proud. Make your mother, our president, proud. Make us the greatest faction in the solar system.
ShortDescription Launch a fleet from Enceladus and destroy all enemies in orbit around Titan.
TimeLimit_JulianDays 30
UnlockModuleDesign true
Location
MainBody Saturn
PlayerAlliance Republic of the Free People
EnemyAlliance United Sol Trade Alliance
AdditionalAlliances The Liberty Exchange Nippon Prime Iroquois Resurgence
AI Aggressive
Fleets
Enceladus 0 Republic of the Free People null TitanInvasionForce
Titan -1 United Sol Trade Alliance null TitanEnemyForce
Music Entropy Reprise
Messages
Starting
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson You're the one who killed Commander Rahimi back at Interamnia, right? You should've listened to him, he was telling the truth.
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson Of course, with all the people you've killed so far, I don't imagine you would've cared, even if you'd had listened.
EnterCombat
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson Does your mother know about all the damage you've done to this solar system? To the human race?
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson How does it feel to be personally responsible for setting back the human race a hundred years? Are you proud of your legacy?
MissionFailure
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson Your assault is staunched, but all the scars you've left on the human race will remain forever.
MissionSuccess
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson My last wish is that one day, your mother realizes the depths of her folly in bringing you into the world.
High Command You did it! Saturn is ours! The people of this solar system will bow their necks beneath our bootheels, and we will be crowned the rulers of it!
Badges
TightDeltaVBudget true
FleetCombat true
AggressiveEnemies true
TransferOrbits true
OutOfPlaneManeuvering true
RetrogradeManeuvering true
RecommendedReading
War Crimes
Hohmann Transfer
Synodic Period
Long Distance Trajectories
Tactical Coasting
Orbital Evasion
High Speed Intercepts
Missile Guidance
Material Properties : Mechanical
Material Properties : Thermal
Material Properties : Electrical
Material Properties : Magnetic
Material Properties : Optical
Cold WeldingAn example code from The Fall of Titan.
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Post by 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖒𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖈𝖑𝖊 on Oct 31, 2017 22:35:00 GMT
The latter. The ending is pretty horrifying though. Bummers . . . I guess mods/sequels/expansions are the way forward then? We need logistics, ship production, realistic population models, trade! and its economic and health ripples (Jeebus, can you imagine living on an airless barren irradiated rock and being blockaded; sorry the air ration will need to be halved. Please try to breath a bit less . . . maybe take a nap) The ending is not Horrifying because of how bad it is, but its literally horrifying as in you question your own sense of justness and being. its good. |
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Post by dichebach on Oct 31, 2017 23:18:28 GMT
Bummers . . . I guess mods/sequels/expansions are the way forward then? We need logistics, ship production, realistic population models, trade! and its economic and health ripples (Jeebus, can you imagine living on an airless barren irradiated rock and being blockaded; sorry the air ration will need to be halved. Please try to breath a bit less . . . maybe take a nap) Oh hey, speaking about the sequel! I used to have a project called 'Project Prosperous' which is intended to be an alternate version of the campaign. Right now its concepts are revived partially as a standalone game, maybe. Ask Tukuro. Anyways, if you're willing to spend some of your time on fun and useless things, I recommend you to try writing your own campaign! The campaign is fully editable, and if you like you can write your own story and replicate them using things available in the game. Speaker USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson
Alliance United Sol Trade Alliance
StarterFleet TitanInvasionForce
ShipTypes Fleet Carrier Siloship Large Methane Tanker
CanCustomize true
StarterFleet TitanEnemyForce
ShipTypes Hiveship Solar Lance Ranger Ranger Corsair
Level The Fall of Titan
JulianYear 2257.4
Description
This is it. We own the Jovian orbital space, and the Liberty Exchange, sensing our imminent victory, is supplying our ships with enough ordnance to ensure the Jovian moons are naught but a nuisance to us from now on. That means that Saturn is the last holdout of the USTA.
They've been requesting an audience with we at high command for a while now, with an offer of their own conditional surrender, but we have no interest in that. You see, a conditional surrender would leave them with the means to rebuild and regroup and, over the course of the next few decades, recreate their original military might. They might just strike when we finally let down our guard, confident in our superiority over Sol. If we force them to accept an unconditional surrender through threat of nuking and paving their cities, we can effectively neuter their entire military and their faction in general.
The USTA will be forced to capitulate, and we will assimilate all of their people into our own faction, all of their moons and asteroids as our own claims, and then we will be the only remaining superpower of the solar system, of all of humanity. Because once the USTA falls, our economic sanctions against Nippon Prime is sure to collapse their economy as well. Right now, they are squabbling for control over the belt, and our other Admirals are dealing with their marauding, while you will be spearheading the assault on Saturn. Since the rest of our forces are busy fortifying the belt until Nippon Prime collapses, you'll have to make do with what we can give you for invading Saturn.
But some good news. Our allies, the Iroquois Resurgence, smelling blood in the water, and eager to take advantage of the collapsing USTA, have taken their scant forces around Saturn and struck Enceladus, taking control of that moon. They clearly intend to start pillaging and claiming the USTA moons as the faction begins to crumble, and to appease us, have offered us a safe staging point from orbit of Enceladus. You'll be launching your assault from Enceladus, as a result.
The highest ranking USTA commander, Fleet Admiral Brian Jefferson, has realized this and fled to Titan to protect their capital Mezzoramia City. Despite the fact that their forces have concentrated in low orbit above Titan, we still dare not try to stage our invasion from any other moon than Enceladus as they most assuredly have hidden anti-space missile silos on all of their moons. USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson is known for caution and defensiveness, unlike many of his commanders, and quite the polar opposite of his former second in command that you killed back at Vesta, Adm. Voitenko. We believe he's afraid, as he rightfully should be, being the last garrison of his faction. There's a hero's welcome for you at home, should you manage to eliminate him.
Once Jefferson is ash orbiting Titan, the USTA will collapse, the last of their space military defeated. We and the other smaller factions like the Iroquois Resurgence and Liberty Exchange will divvy up the moons of Saturn. Nippon Prime's economy is expected to implode soon after. In the end, we will be the victors. We will be the ones standing over the ashes of our opponents. Sol will be ours!
Make us proud. Make your mother, our president, proud. Make us the greatest faction in the solar system.
ShortDescription Launch a fleet from Enceladus and destroy all enemies in orbit around Titan.
TimeLimit_JulianDays 30
UnlockModuleDesign true
Location
MainBody Saturn
PlayerAlliance Republic of the Free People
EnemyAlliance United Sol Trade Alliance
AdditionalAlliances The Liberty Exchange Nippon Prime Iroquois Resurgence
AI Aggressive
Fleets
Enceladus 0 Republic of the Free People null TitanInvasionForce
Titan -1 United Sol Trade Alliance null TitanEnemyForce
Music Entropy Reprise
Messages
Starting
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson You're the one who killed Commander Rahimi back at Interamnia, right? You should've listened to him, he was telling the truth.
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson Of course, with all the people you've killed so far, I don't imagine you would've cared, even if you'd had listened.
EnterCombat
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson Does your mother know about all the damage you've done to this solar system? To the human race?
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson How does it feel to be personally responsible for setting back the human race a hundred years? Are you proud of your legacy?
MissionFailure
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson Your assault is staunched, but all the scars you've left on the human race will remain forever.
MissionSuccess
USF Fleet Adm. Jefferson My last wish is that one day, your mother realizes the depths of her folly in bringing you into the world.
High Command You did it! Saturn is ours! The people of this solar system will bow their necks beneath our bootheels, and we will be crowned the rulers of it!
Badges
TightDeltaVBudget true
FleetCombat true
AggressiveEnemies true
TransferOrbits true
OutOfPlaneManeuvering true
RetrogradeManeuvering true
RecommendedReading
War Crimes
Hohmann Transfer
Synodic Period
Long Distance Trajectories
Tactical Coasting
Orbital Evasion
High Speed Intercepts
Missile Guidance
Material Properties : Mechanical
Material Properties : Thermal
Material Properties : Electrical
Material Properties : Magnetic
Material Properties : Optical
Cold WeldingAn example code from The Fall of Titan.
Ah! Good to know! I'm ramping up on a project that will be taking up 110% of my time for at least two years. But a bit of diversion now and then can be good. I have to say, I deeply respect and appreciate the extreme realism focus Q-switched has taken and I hope I can achieve a delicate balance between that same focus and fun gameplay. |
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Post by jtyotjotjipaefvj on Nov 3, 2017 11:16:17 GMT
I believe that many people would convert to More Dakkaism in response to this challenge. This is the best design philosophy anyways. I beat most of the campaign using ships armed with 30 or so 60mm cannons. |
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Post by The Astronomer on Nov 3, 2017 13:14:53 GMT
I believe that many people would convert to More Dakkaism in response to this challenge. This is the best design philosophy anyways. I beat most of the campaign using ships armed with 30 or so 60mm cannons. Sometimes More Dakkaism isn't as good as BetterTech TM, as shown in real life back in the 19 th century as nations try to get themselves advanced weapons over saturating the enemy with swords and spears. |
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Post by jtyotjotjipaefvj on Nov 3, 2017 13:21:42 GMT
This is the best design philosophy anyways. I beat most of the campaign using ships armed with 30 or so 60mm cannons. Sometimes More Dakkaism isn't as good as BetterTech TM, as shown in real life back in the 19 th century as nations try to get themselves advanced weapons over saturating the enemy with swords and spears. Sword and spears don't count as dakka though, so it's natural it didn't work. |
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Post by bigbombr on Nov 3, 2017 13:35:49 GMT
Sometimes More Dakkaism isn't as good as BetterTech TM, as shown in real life back in the 19 th century as nations try to get themselves advanced weapons over saturating the enemy with swords and spears. Sword and spears don't count as dakka though, so it's natural it didn't work. Dreadnoughts had less dakka than pre-dreadnoughts though. |
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