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Post by ππππππππππ on Oct 13, 2017 5:10:40 GMT
Ship taser. Electrically charged harpoon that pierces the hull and sends a massive surge that disables electronics. man those wires would have to be insanely strong to withstand the firing and the heat from those pulses lol. it might be more effective in igniting gas tanks.
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Post by srbrant on Oct 13, 2017 15:48:27 GMT
Oh yeah, the energy release at the end. I've actually been considering Alcubierre cannons for my story. Would warp bubble cannons rip apart targets on the sub-atomic level because of extreme tidal forces? It's not the warp bubble, it's the energy it releases at the end of transit.
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Post by Kerr on Oct 13, 2017 16:03:56 GMT
Ludicrous weapon idea: Alcubierre drives as WMD Warp into your enemy's star system to vaporize the destination, and potentially burning that whole star system Is the working mechanism 1. Letting the warp bubble with the mass-energy of a dwarf planet decay within another star system or 2. The Warp bubble will be deactivated within another star system, creating an small gamma ray burst caused from collisions of the interstellar medium and your warp bubble?
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Post by The Astronomer on Oct 13, 2017 18:39:32 GMT
Ludicrous weapon idea: Alcubierre drives as WMD Warp into your enemy's star system to vaporize the destination, and potentially burning that whole star system Is the working mechanism 1. Letting the warp bubble with the mass-energy of a dwarf planet decay within another star system or 2. The Warp bubble will be deactivated within another star system, creating an small gamma ray burst caused from collisions of the interstellar medium and your warp bubble? I think it's all the energy accumulated from the trip released once you turn off the warp drive, so 2. If your trip's short there should be minor inconvenience, but if you warp from, say, the other side of the galaxy, expect a big blast.
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Post by Kerr on Oct 13, 2017 18:43:55 GMT
Is the working mechanism 1. Letting the warp bubble with the mass-energy of a dwarf planet decay within another star system or 2. The Warp bubble will be deactivated within another star system, creating an small gamma ray burst caused from collisions of the interstellar medium and your warp bubble? I think it's all the energy accumulated from the trip released once you turn off the warp drive, so 2. If your trip's short there should be minor inconvenience, but if you warp from, say, the other side of the galaxy, expect a big blast. Well, then the question remains, what is the energy density? An warp bubble with 100mΒ² frontal area traversing 100,000 Light years will only scoop up a few hundred grams.
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Post by The Astronomer on Oct 13, 2017 18:49:33 GMT
I think it's all the energy accumulated from the trip released once you turn off the warp drive, so 2. If your trip's short there should be minor inconvenience, but if you warp from, say, the other side of the galaxy, expect a big blast. Well, then the question remains, what is the energy density? An warp bubble with 100mΒ² frontal area traversing 100,000 Light years will only scoop up a few hundred grams. Sorry, I got confused. I think it's more of the energy the bubble gathered from collision between your ship and the particles. If your drive somehow can travel faster than light, collision with a grain of sand will produce crazy, if not infinite amount of energy. I don't know the details, but it's probably enough to destroy the whole star system. If my guess is correct, don't worry if you're traveling at realistic speeds, turning the drive off would produce only a tiny flash. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Damaging_effect_on_destination
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Post by Kerr on Oct 13, 2017 19:01:08 GMT
Well, then the question remains, what is the energy density? An warp bubble with 100mΒ² frontal area traversing 100,000 Light years will only scoop up a few hundred grams. Sorry, I got confused. I think it's more of the energy the bubble gathered from collision between your ship and the particles. If your drive somehow can travel faster than light, collision with a grain of sand will produce crazy, if not infinite amount of energy. I don't know the details, but it's probably enough to destroy the whole star system. If my guess is correct, don't worry if you're traveling at realistic speeds, turning the drive off would produce only a tiny flash. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Damaging_effect_on_destinationSo superluminal warp bubbles? This causes some problems, wouldn't the time travelling properties mean that if someone survives at your target system they could launch their own warp bubble, and their warp bubble will hit before you even fired your own warp gun?
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Post by The Astronomer on Oct 13, 2017 19:07:02 GMT
Sorry, I got confused. I think it's more of the energy the bubble gathered from collision between your ship and the particles. If your drive somehow can travel faster than light, collision with a grain of sand will produce crazy, if not infinite amount of energy. I don't know the details, but it's probably enough to destroy the whole star system. If my guess is correct, don't worry if you're traveling at realistic speeds, turning the drive off would produce only a tiny flash. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive#Damaging_effect_on_destinationSo superluminal warp bubbles? This causes some problems, wouldn't the time travelling properties mean that if someone survives at your target system they could launch their own warp bubble, and their warp bubble will hit before you even fired your own warp gun? From the outside you should be able to see it coming.
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Post by ππππππππππ on Oct 13, 2017 22:44:35 GMT
I think it's all the energy accumulated from the trip released once you turn off the warp drive, so 2. If your trip's short there should be minor inconvenience, but if you warp from, say, the other side of the galaxy, expect a big blast. Well, then the question remains, what is the energy density? An warp bubble with 100mΒ² frontal area traversing 100,000 Light years will only scoop up a few hundred grams. according to my calculations including the volume of a 100,000 light-year shaft with 100 square meters of area and the density of space being 1 hydrogen atom per cubic centimeter, I found that after 100,000 light years, an abbicure drive will accumulate 1.76 tons of Hydrogen. I don't know about you, but a ton of hydrogen with a relativistic velocity could probably destroy a planet.
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Post by thorneel on Oct 14, 2017 19:33:17 GMT
Well, then the question remains, what is the energy density? An warp bubble with 100mΒ² frontal area traversing 100,000 Light years will only scoop up a few hundred grams. according to my calculations including the volume of a 100,000 light-year shaft with 100 square meters of area and the density of space being 1 hydrogen atom per cubic centimeter, I found that after 100,000 light years, an abbicure drive will accumulate 1.76 tons of Hydrogen. I don't know about you, but a ton of hydrogen with a relativistic velocity could probably destroy a planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there should probably also be photons that collide with the bubble front. That said, aren't there versions of the bubble where the external cross-section is smaller than a proton?
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Post by ππππππππππ on Oct 14, 2017 20:20:20 GMT
according to my calculations including the volume of a 100,000 light-year shaft with 100 square meters of area and the density of space being 1 hydrogen atom per cubic centimeter, I found that after 100,000 light years, an abbicure drive will accumulate 1.76 tons of Hydrogen. I don't know about you, but a ton of hydrogen with a relativistic velocity could probably destroy a planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there should probably also be photons that collide with the bubble front. That said, aren't there versions of the bubble where the external cross-section is smaller than a proton? idk, but I feel like the bubble would have to cover the entire ship or it would collide with stuff
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Post by n2maniac on Oct 17, 2017 3:51:12 GMT
Graphene flywheel launched at a target ship. Higher energy density than rocket fuel and all in kinetic energy.
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Post by RiftandRend on Oct 17, 2017 6:26:26 GMT
Graphene flywheel with flaming spikes launched at a target ship. Higher energy density than rocket fuel and all in kinetic energy. Fixed it for ya.
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Post by Kerr on Oct 17, 2017 6:35:58 GMT
Graphene flywheel launched at a target ship. Β Higher energy density than rocket fuel and all in kinetic energy. A small black object with energy densities of up to GJ/kg , having no ignition requirments and has stored this energy as kinetic energy? Totally ludicrous.
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Post by bigbombr on Oct 17, 2017 6:38:39 GMT
Graphene flywheel launched at a target ship. Higher energy density than rocket fuel and all in kinetic energy. A small black object with energy densities of up to GJ/kg , having no ignition requirments and has stored this energy as kinetic energy? Totally ludicrous. And it could unspool graphene/CNT wires to increase impact area.
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