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Post by concretedonkey on Oct 11, 2016 17:39:38 GMT
Yep very good design... how about this version - one third of the weight for a bit more than half of the performance. I'm pretty sure it can be improved more.
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Post by normalitybytes on Oct 11, 2016 17:53:33 GMT
I like it! Did you check if you can run it hotter at that output?
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Post by concretedonkey on Oct 11, 2016 17:55:53 GMT
Starts to overheat, wasn't able to increase it and at the same time keeping it light and powerfull.
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Post by redparadize on Oct 13, 2016 0:59:57 GMT
Anyone have a decent RTG or reactor below 5kg ? My attempt at it resulted in abyssal performance.
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Post by teeth on Oct 13, 2016 1:37:59 GMT
How much power do you need out of that weight? I've got a 3.09 kg, 102 watt, 321 credit reactor meant exclusively for gun-using micro drones.
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Post by morrigi on Oct 13, 2016 1:53:43 GMT
Wow, that's perfect. I can make my Hornet drone about 100kg lighter and 10,000 credits cheaper with that thing. My incompetently-built, ammonia-cooled reactor is below.
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Post by morrigi on Oct 13, 2016 2:04:55 GMT
By fooling around with the turbopumps, I made that 100W reactor into a 200W reactor with no additional weight.
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Post by Aron0621 on Oct 13, 2016 2:16:03 GMT
Can you actually build a hydrogen pump made of lithium, though?
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Post by morrigi on Oct 13, 2016 2:24:33 GMT
May not be the best idea. Building it out of titanium only bumps the weight up to 3.1kg.
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Post by redparadize on Oct 13, 2016 2:31:10 GMT
Thanks czigbot and morrigi Yeah I plan to use them on drones. I managed to get something like what you guys did. The thing is there a huge gap between that and the next step: I wish I could have Fuel mass below 1kg... Any idea on how to get somewhere between your design and mine ?
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Post by teeth on Oct 13, 2016 2:42:18 GMT
I used depleted uranium as the fuel, the output will drop to below 0 watts when you first change it but it also produces a lot less heat. Just adjust all the cooling down until you can reach the power you need.
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Post by morrigi on Oct 13, 2016 2:44:19 GMT
Yeah, only problem with DU is that it can't handle high heat, so it's only useful for very low-output reactors due to radiator fuckery.
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Post by morrigi on Oct 13, 2016 2:54:22 GMT
Hydrogen deuteride coolant is nice. Attachments:
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Post by goduranus on Oct 13, 2016 2:59:56 GMT
These fission thermo generators that use only 1kg of fuel, is that a bug? Can you really have fission with 1 kg of fuel? I am no engineer so I wouldn't know better though.
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Post by RA2lover on Oct 13, 2016 3:23:13 GMT
Here's the lightest "efficient" thermocouple i can build so far: Sadly, it still needs about 25m² of maximum theoretical efficiency radiators. Even increasing the exit temperature to 510 K (and using silver as a heat conductor so you actually manage to have a reasonable length), that's still 15 m² worth of radiators. We need RTG fuel quantities smaller than 1kg to make them viable cost-wise:( As for a heavier alternative with a saner exit temperature, there's this: It fails miserably in terms of mass efficiency because both thermopile materials are (relatively to the amount of heat available) good heat conductors and need that much surface area to achieve the intended temperature delta. Here's a less efficient version that takes advantage of the low thermal conductivity of uranous oxide to work, and manages to get a higher operating temperature: If you don't care about cost, RTGs still perform better mass-wise at very low power usage. Sorry.
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