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Post by goduranus on May 6, 2017 9:03:40 GMT
Asked around in the kinetic/over armor thread for turret armor, but haven't had much luck building a kinetic turret that lasts long enough to get in range of a laser opponent. I tried using 10 cm turret armor of the following materials : Silica Aerogel, Aramid fiber, Para-aramid fiber, and Graphite. With none of the materials did the turret last more than one second of the laser firing. I actually wonder if it's the gun barrel or the rails melting. I was using Zirconium Copper rails with Graphite Aerogel Barrel Armor. Here's what I was up against, a set of ten 50MW point defense lasers, with range set to 200km and intensity at that range of 125MW/M^2.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 6, 2017 9:09:12 GMT
Try aramid fiber as barrel armor and retry, then.
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Post by goduranus on May 6, 2017 9:24:17 GMT
Aramid Fiber barrel armor + Aramid Fiber turret armor lasted two about two seconds
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Post by samchiu2000 on May 6, 2017 9:27:25 GMT
Aramid Fiber barrel armor + Aramid Fiber turret armor lasted two about two seconds Then thicken the armor or just stop using it, because in some cases armor is just worthless...
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Post by The Astronomer on May 6, 2017 9:28:38 GMT
Are you fighting too close? 200 km seems absurdly near when talking about player lasers.
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Post by goduranus on May 6, 2017 9:40:46 GMT
Still beyong the effective range of the railgun though. Laser's a 50MW, so scale the power 25 times, it's got the equivalent hitting power of a 1.25GW laser at 1000km.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 6, 2017 9:43:53 GMT
Still beyong the effective range of the railgun though. Laser's a 50MW, so scale the power 25 times, it's got the equivalent hitting power of a 1.25GW laser at 1000km. My 10 MW Ce:LLF laser with intensity at 1 km = 12.0 TW/m 2 start fighting at 3,460 km (where intensity being 1 MW/m 2).
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Post by goduranus on May 6, 2017 9:57:33 GMT
That would be even further beyond the reach of a railgun though.
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Post by bigbombr on May 6, 2017 10:00:35 GMT
You could try threshold armour instead of ablative armour. The intensities involved might be too high tough. Aluminium has a pretty decent intensity threshold and is cheap.
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Post by blkcandy on May 6, 2017 10:02:31 GMT
Don't forget to consider the output power. Even if the laser is intense AF, it could be ineffective if its raw power is too low.
That aside, I am using 10cm graphene for both turret armor. Last a few seconds against 87/200MW laser fire from 500km though still too soon. Laser turrets somehow last longer despite using the same armor scheme. Might be because of the barrel. The barrel armor is only 3cm.
But graphene is a cheatish mod material.
My current solution is out laser them.
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Post by bigbombr on May 6, 2017 10:04:48 GMT
Don't forget to consider the output power. Even if the laser is intense AF, it could be ineffective if its raw power is too low. That aside, I am using 10cm graphene for both turret and barrel armor. Last a few seconds against 87/200MW laser fire from 500km though still too soon. Laser turrets somehow last longer despite using the same armor scheme. Might be because of the barrel. The barrel armor is only 3cm. But graphene is a cheatish mod material. I'm pretty convinced aramid fiber is better anti-laser armour than graphene.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 6, 2017 10:09:44 GMT
Don't forget to consider the output power. Even if the laser is intense AF, it could be ineffective if its raw power is too low. That aside, I am using 10cm graphene for both turret and barrel armor. Last a few seconds against 87/200MW laser fire from 500km though still too soon. Laser turrets somehow last longer despite using the same armor scheme. Might be because of the barrel. The barrel armor is only 3cm. But graphene is a cheatish mod material. I'm pretty convinced aramid fiber is better anti-laser armour than graphene. Switch from graphene and its aerogel to aramid fiber and receive extra laser protection NOW!
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Post by blkcandy on May 6, 2017 10:10:53 GMT
Never reallly tested aramid-fiber. Too expensive. I might try it later. Graphene has mad thermal properties though. My ships use aluminum over graphene as laser shield and it works really well.
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Post by ash19256 on May 6, 2017 22:05:29 GMT
I've found that 3D-Graphene seems to work well enough as anti-laser armor.
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Post by Rocket Witch on May 6, 2017 22:41:58 GMT
I think you need to make the turret armour thick enough to envelope the gun barrel.
I don't know if this still works since the visual models of the turrets were changed so the armour ends at the start of the barrel. I suspect it does though, since since the diagram of the turret in the editor will still show a big globe of armour with the turret mechanism and gun barrel inside it if you make it thick enough, so I don't think the hitbox or underlying code changed, just the visual model stopped matching it.
Unfortunately this means taking on a lot of waste material, and it becomes prohibitively heavy even with aerogel, but it's the only surefire option if armouring the barrel in aramid doesn't achieve anything.
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