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Post by xenophon13 on May 2, 2017 3:41:52 GMT
Our victory over the USTA has show without a doubt that our navy reigns supreme when it comes to space-superiority. However, our marines have not proven quite as adept, and the insurgency on Titan is still going strong.
High Command has requested that we develop a specialized weapons platform for providing orbital support to ground troops and destroying enemy infrastructure.
Requested features are: - The ability to launch 10kt, 100kt, and 1Mt orbit-to-ground nuclear missiles. Missiles should have enough delta-v to de-orbit themselves (with the aid of aerobraking), be able to survive atmospheric reentry* on Mars and Titan, and be able to penetrate ground-based CIWS defenses either through number or armor.
- The ability to deliver high-velocity kinetic payloads to ground-based targets. This could be through "Rods from God" style KKVs, or fired from a projectile weapon of some sort. Regardless, the payloads should be able to survive reentry, and should be dense enough to have a high terminal velocity in atmospheres.*
The intent is to use the siege cruisers only after space-superiority has been established, the main threat to it thus being ground-based missile installations. Thus, the Siege cruiser's defensive capabilities against kinetics and lasers are not a priority.
*Obviously there's no good way to measure these in-game, so there isn't really a way to test or score anyone's designs. Nevertheless I'm curious to see what people will come up with.
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Post by samchiu2000 on May 2, 2017 4:38:07 GMT
Is it something like SSBN back on Terra?
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Post by acrosome on May 2, 2017 5:16:45 GMT
More like something like what the Iowa's turned into before they were decomissioned- useful only for shore bombardment.
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Post by Owlfeathers on May 2, 2017 12:48:05 GMT
Hm, this is an interesting one. I'll see what I can come up with.
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Post by Rocket Witch on May 2, 2017 13:51:15 GMT
*Obviously there's no good way to measure these in-game, so there isn't really a way to test or score anyone's designs. Nevertheless I'm curious to see what people will come up with. One could use KSP with RSS, FAR and Deadly Reentry, and mod variants on Procedural Parts that represent different materials to judge the aerodynamic characteristics of our payloads on, but that's a hell of a lot of trouble to go to. Anyway, definitely doing this challenge.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 2, 2017 14:26:51 GMT
About the projectile: I don't know how would a rod would survive reentry, but since it's Mars/Titan I guess reentry rods would have less problem. Anyways, here's my new weapon idea: Reentry Bombs The armor shell and the fuel tank will separate a while before reentry. The bomb will separate from graphene pod shell and the RC after sufficient deceleration. Note: The armor is supposed to be future material stuffs, not aramid. For the bomb, it could be fusion bombs, but there's no fusion bomb in CDE, so I'll just stick to combustion bombs. Don't want our troop to die of radiation sickness.
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Post by Enderminion on May 2, 2017 16:00:17 GMT
whats a little fallout between friends?
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Post by The Astronomer on May 2, 2017 16:05:22 GMT
whats a little fallout between friends? Liberty Exchange banned nuclear usage on surface. Without it, I still wouldn't use them anyways. It's 'providing orbital support to ground troops' not 'providing orbital-class death to ground troops'
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Post by bigbombr on May 2, 2017 16:40:45 GMT
Liberty Exchange banned nuclear usage on surface. Without it, I still wouldn't use them anyways. It's 'providing orbital support to ground troops' not 'providing orbital-class death to ground troops' If you want to support troops with accurate fire instead of nukes, lasers seem an obvious choice. You tailor the frequency to the local atmosphere to ensure sufficient transmission, and tune the intensity to the desired effect. (Roasting tanks? Cutting the wings of aircraft? Boiling the brains of enemy infantry? Knocking enemy infantry or civilians out by heatstroke?) This flexibility in force is the main argument for lasers versus nukes for orbital fire support/bombardment IMO.
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Post by The Astronomer on May 2, 2017 16:43:18 GMT
Liberty Exchange banned nuclear usage on surface. Without it, I still wouldn't use them anyways. It's 'providing orbital support to ground troops' not 'providing orbital-class death to ground troops' If you want to support troops with accurate fire instead of nukes, lasers seem an obvious choice. You tailor the frequency to the local atmosphere to ensure sufficient transmission, and tune the intensity to the desired effect. (Roasting tanks? Cutting the wings of aircraft? Boiling the brains of enemy infantry? Knocking enemy infantry or civilians out by heatstroke?) This flexibility in force is the main argument for lasers versus nukes for orbital fire support/bombardment IMO. You mean IR lasers on Titan? Not bad, but the challenge's still about deployed bombs
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Post by Enderminion on May 2, 2017 17:19:43 GMT
Titans covered in hydrocarbons right? Take an FAE bomb and replace the Fuel with Flourine
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Post by The Astronomer on May 2, 2017 17:24:04 GMT
Titans covered in hydrocarbons right? Take an FAE bomb and replace the Fuel with Flourine I'd hate it if Titan come and burn my house down. I'd better stay safe.
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Post by Enderminion on May 2, 2017 18:24:48 GMT
Titans covered in hydrocarbons right? Take an FAE bomb and replace the Fuel with Flourine I'd hate it if Titan come and burn my house down. I'd better stay safe. MOAB filled with flourine
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Post by kaiserwilhelm on May 2, 2017 19:03:13 GMT
I'd hate it if Titan come and burn my house down. I'd better stay safe. MOAB filled with flourine Dont the russians have a bigger bomb soething along the lines of FOAB Father of all bombs. I am not really sure tough. Flourine phh why not FOOF. You know for even more destructive force in the same package.
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Post by Enderminion on May 2, 2017 19:10:52 GMT
MOAB filled with flourine Dont the russians have a bigger bomb soething along the lines of FOAB Father of all bombs. I am not really sure tough. Flourine phh why not FOOF. You know for even more destructive force in the same package. 1. you get the idea of a thin walled tank full of BOOM, 2. FOOF F and OF3 all work
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