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Post by RiftandRend on Apr 8, 2017 9:00:20 GMT
I have no idea why the Tritium we have in game has to be a solid. 25 K operating temperature is beyond awful. As far as I can tell pressurized tritium gas should be a very competitive RTG fuel.
The cost a tritium seems largely dependent on how pressurized the tritium is. The denser it is the less expensive thermocouple materiel is needed. The cost of the gas itself is negligible compared to other RTGs, at around 40 c/kg.
Material Highly Compressed Liquid Tritium
Elements T
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 1210
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol 233.403
BondDissociationEnergy_kJ__mol 0
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol 0
MeltingPoint_K 1700
BoilingPoint_K 1700
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .13007
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 10327.18
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.77e-4
RefractiveIndex Hydrogen
Material Compressed Liquid Tritium
Elements T
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 220
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol 233.403
BondDissociationEnergy_kJ__mol 0
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol 0
MeltingPoint_K 1700
BoilingPoint_K 1700
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .13007
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 10327.18
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.77e-4
RefractiveIndex Hydrogen
Of course, these are far probably inferior Betavoltaic devices.
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Post by samchiu2000 on Apr 8, 2017 11:29:49 GMT
I have no idea why the Tritium we have in game has to be a solid. 25 K operating temperature is beyond awful. As far as I can tell pressurized tritium gas should be a very competitive RTG fuel. The cost a tritium seems largely dependent on how pressurized the tritium is. The denser it is the less expensive thermocouple materiel is needed. The cost of the gas itself is negligible compared to other RTGs, at around 40 c/kg. Material Highly Compressed Liquid Tritium
Elements T
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 1210
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol 233.403
BondDissociationEnergy_kJ__mol 0
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol 0
MeltingPoint_K 1700
BoilingPoint_K 1700
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .13007
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 10327.18
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.77e-4
RefractiveIndex Hydrogen
Material Compressed Liquid Tritium
Elements T
ElementCount 1
Density_kg__m3 220
EnthalpyOfFormation_kJ__mol 233.403
BondDissociationEnergy_kJ__mol 0
GibbsFreeEnergyOfFormation_kJ__mol 0
MeltingPoint_K 1700
BoilingPoint_K 1700
ThermalConductivity_W__m_K .13007
SpecificHeat_J__kg_K 10327.18
Viscosity_Pa_s 1.77e-4
RefractiveIndex HydrogenOf course, these are far probably inferior Betavoltaic devices. Which PDF or some sort tell you that compressed tritium can withstand temperature of 1700k？ |
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Post by RiftandRend on Apr 8, 2017 11:47:39 GMT
None, that value was arbitrary as a compressed gas does not withstand temperature. As it is heated it would exert more pressure and strain the containing vessel. Unfortunately this strain is not modeled in game and adding elements to the compressed tritium to represent reinforcing material invalidates it as an RTG fuel. |
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Post by samchiu2000 on Apr 8, 2017 11:54:18 GMT
None, that value was arbitrary as a compressed gas does not withstand temperature. As it is heated it would exert more pressure and strain the containing vessel. Unfortunately this strain is not modeled in game and adding elements to the compressed tritium to represent reinforcing material invalidates it as an RTG fuel. Alright got it... |
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Post by n2maniac on Apr 8, 2017 20:40:50 GMT
"Highly Compressed Liquid Tritium"
Do keep in mind it won't actually be a liquid, it will either be a gas or super-critical fluid (which, at that temperature, will be predominantly a gas).
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 10, 2017 1:50:46 GMT
we could use this as a sudo plasma bomb maybe?
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Post by newageofpower on Apr 10, 2017 3:14:34 GMT
we could use this as a sudo plasma bomb maybe? grossly inferior to even chemical bombs, nevermind nuclear hand grenades, but yes |
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Post by Enderminion on Apr 10, 2017 11:01:10 GMT
ahhh, byt you forgot the awsome factor
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Post by mrsandman on Apr 10, 2017 14:16:30 GMT
we could use this as a sudo plasma bomb maybe? grossly inferior to even chemical bombs, nevermind nuclear hand grenades, but yes Is it good? Hell no. But must it be made? Yes. |
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Post by Rocket Witch on Apr 14, 2017 17:59:00 GMT
None, that value was arbitrary as a compressed gas does not withstand temperature. As it is heated it would exert more pressure and strain the containing vessel. Unfortunately this strain is not modeled in game and adding elements to the compressed tritium to represent reinforcing material invalidates it as an RTG fuel. Maybe the code for nuke fusion fuel pressure, or which decides the required fuel tank thickness for a selected material, could be factored into RTG fuel choice. I don't think modules can be modified, but I really don't know. |
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