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Post by thorneel on Mar 19, 2017 1:39:47 GMT
So your saying the transceivers on the ship giving orders is pointed at me then? Who says I'm trying to jam the drone/missile? Go on, jam a laser transceiver. (If you can do that, you can probably blow up the command ship as well. Just. Saying.) Blowing up the command ship is a good way to jam the laser transmitter.
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Post by deltav on Mar 19, 2017 2:56:19 GMT
Found this looking for laser vs laser sniping, but relevant here. Some new Drone mounted antiLaser systems out there, one is called called Helios, uses weak lasers to confuse/disable stronger Ship/Ground mounted lasers. Edit: Thought of a solution to the enemy jamming the commands of our drone fly-by-wire pilots... instead let's use these...
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Post by kuriosly on Mar 19, 2017 6:51:50 GMT
Go on, jam a laser transceiver. (If you can do that, you can probably blow up the command ship as well. Just. Saying.) Blowing up the command ship is a good way to jam the laser transmitter. I think there's a bit of a difference between a communication laser and a tactical jamming communication laser and a tactical communicate-with-the-ship-behind-the-ship laser
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Post by The Genocide God on Mar 19, 2017 8:18:43 GMT
I fairly sure that's basically terrorism and that will get you good dose of SPACE GENOCIDE! Somebody call for an exterminator The Genocide God ? Did someone say genocide? Perhaps I could be of some... assistance.
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Post by midnightdreary on Mar 19, 2017 14:45:38 GMT
... a laser is very dodgeable at light seconds of range, nevermind light minutes. I have to take issue with this statement. The speed of light is the fastest speed information can travel, that is to say, you can't detect it before it has arrived. You can't dodge a laser because the only way to detect it is when it hits you. AFTER you are hit, you could move out of the way, but if the laser source adjusts aim you couldn't know until you are hit again.
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 19, 2017 15:51:49 GMT
if you are constantly moving then it would be more difficult for a laser to get a bead.
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Post by vegemeister on Mar 19, 2017 16:04:41 GMT
If you're constantly moving, you're pissing away your fuel very quickly.
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Post by newageofpower on Mar 19, 2017 16:07:11 GMT
if you are constantly moving then it would be more difficult for a laser to get a bead. Exactly.midnightdrearyThe laser suffers from light-lag punishment just as much as the spacesbip, if not worse. If you start dodging as soon as you are in sufficient range to suffer damage (lasing intensity thresholds and all that) the laser has little chance of hitting you until you are below a light second in engagement time. If you're constantly moving, you're pissing away your fuel very quickly. Apophys's Gladiator design showed that at 1000 km even 3 ug of thrust was enough to dodge multihundred km/s kinetics. You don't need to turn on the main drive torch for laser dodge purposes at light minutes
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Post by vegemeister on Mar 19, 2017 16:20:28 GMT
Apophys's Gladiator design showed that at 1000 km even 3 ug of thrust was enough to dodge multihundred km/s kinetics. You don't need to turn on the main drive torch for laser dodge purposes at light minutesI haven't seen that design, but I'm skeptical. If we say multihundred km/s is 200 km/s, that gives 5 seconds to dodge. 3 ug for 5 seconds will displace your ship by 1/2 * 29.4 um/s² * (5 s)² = 368 um. You'd have to have a damn small ship for that to be enough to get you out of the way.
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 19, 2017 16:29:37 GMT
I am thinkin that a typo turned 3mg to 3ug, but I don't know for sure.
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Post by vegemeister on Mar 19, 2017 16:33:38 GMT
368 mm is still... not very far.
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Post by newageofpower on Mar 19, 2017 16:59:42 GMT
Apophys's Gladiator design showed that at 1000 km even 3 ug of thrust was enough to dodge multihundred km/s kinetics. You don't need to turn on the main drive torch for laser dodge purposes at light minutesI haven't seen that design, but I'm skeptical. If we say multihundred km/s is 200 km/s, that gives 5 seconds to dodge. 3 ug for 5 seconds will displace your ship by 1/2 * 29.4 um/s² * (5 s)² = 368 um. You'd have to have a damn small ship for that to be enough to get you out of the way. On one hand, I have anecdotes from apophys. On the other, you have MATH. I may have misremembered this one, but my intention was to prove an MPD could provide sufficient laser-dodge at extreme range (when TTH exceeds 1 minute).
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 19, 2017 17:06:08 GMT
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Post by newageofpower on Mar 19, 2017 17:18:34 GMT
Time to Hit. 1 LM = 1.799e+10m.
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Post by Enderminion on Mar 19, 2017 18:06:21 GMT
so a light minute, close enough to 18kMm
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